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Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by yellow_lead on Monday September 27, 2021 @03:49PM (#28675212)
Even if you thought you couldn't win, the interest is so high on a $5B fine, you want to delay payment as long as possible.
Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by KptMarchewa on Monday September 27, 2021 @03:01PM (#28674645)
Why are they able to appeal stuff three years later?
Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by jsnell on Monday September 27, 2021 @03:08PM (#28674747)
I think they appealed three years ago, and it is only now in court?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-alphabet-inc-antitrust...

Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by cblackthornekc on Monday September 27, 2021 @03:51PM (#28675224)
I'm going to guess an ongoing pandemic might have delayed it just a bit
Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by hulitu on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @08:10AM (#28681833)
Also some lobbying.
Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by ct0 on Monday September 27, 2021 @02:44PM (#28674418)
Of course they are. Water is wet.
Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by rasz on Monday September 27, 2021 @04:38PM (#28675692)
Its a no brainer. Intel still hasnt paid 1B fine for bribing vendors to stop buying AMD products.
Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by ksec on Monday September 27, 2021 @03:10PM (#28674774)
That is sort of strange. Part of the reason why Google is able to provide Android for free is that they monetise it via its services bundled with Android.

So I guess Google has to charge for Android as an OS instead?

Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by dathinab on Monday September 27, 2021 @03:28PM (#28674989)
But you don't get Android from google, you get a fork from the vendor which produced the phone you bought.

So you are paying (in many ways) for companies you payed getting it for free...

And maybe the cheapest level of phones would get more expensive.

But for many (most) Android phones (sold in the EU) the price increase if Android isn't free should be fairly small. (Especially given that google still gets a lot of other benefits from people using Android, I mean e.g. Google Play is still the default App store.)

Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by ksec on Monday September 27, 2021 @05:03PM (#28675967)
>you get a fork from the vendor which produced the phone you bought.

Well yes. But the vendor get its fork from Google, particularly speaking.

From my understanding, vendor are perfectly free to take Android source code and make their own OS . But if you want all the extra provided by Google Android ( the OS ), you have to include all the bundled Software. The current ruling would be like asking Windows to not bundle Email and Browser.

This is similar to the Microsoft ruling where it has to provide a Windows OS that allows multiple Browser options during setup.

Generally speaking EUR doesn't like freemium model. That is why the suggestion of charging for Android. I read it as EU having problem with Google providing Android ( OS ) for free and stifles competition from all of its bundled services.

Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by kergonath on Monday September 27, 2021 @03:39PM (#28675091)
"But it's the only way to make it free" is no excuse when you've been found to have done something illegal. If your business is found to be against the law, then it is on you to get a better one.
Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by pessimizer on Monday September 27, 2021 @04:53PM (#28675878)
If they don't think they can make Android profitable without abusing their position, they can always choose to stop offering it. I'm sure something better will take its place.
Re:Google Is Appealing a $5B Antitrust Fine in the EU by hulitu on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @08:12AM (#28681861)
It was bundled with the phone in the same way some computers come with windows preinstalled. I would not say it was free.