Signal is experiencing technical difficulties

Re:Signal is experiencing technical difficulties by avnigo on Monday September 27, 2021 @04:02AM (#28668220)

Down due to a hosting outage, but back up currently.

This is why I would wanna see user-hosted instances of the Signal server [0] plugging in to the network and supporting traffic.

I think a zero-config server app install of Signal server would work great for decentralizing the messaging platform too, but unfortunately it's not set up to handle that yet.

[0]: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server

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Re:Signal is experiencing technical difficulties by ninchuka on Monday September 27, 2021 @07:00AM (#28669213)

moxie the creator of it is so against decentralizing signal its insane so thats never going to happen sadly, it really would fix the problem just have a few thousand server people start running and it connects to the network and gets sent messages to send to its destination

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Re:Signal is experiencing technical difficulties by busymom0 on Monday September 27, 2021 @07:17AM (#28669325)

Did he give a reason for why he's against decentralization?

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Re:Signal is experiencing technical difficulties by upofadown on Monday September 27, 2021 @07:47AM (#28669512)

https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/

... is the article in question. Basically the argument is that federation slows down the possible rate of change. If you have but the one server in a system you can change things whenever you want and then push out any client changes.

The root concept here is that constant protocol and feature change is the most desirable state. Not all of us accept that.

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Re:Signal is experiencing technical difficulties by ninchuka on Monday September 27, 2021 @08:25AM (#28669780)

I get quicker and more reliable notifications from a self hosted matrix instance then signal and even if I went on the signal app and looked at the chat I couldn't see the message until I got a notification a bit later from them could I see it

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Re:Signal is experiencing technical difficulties by ninchuka on Monday September 27, 2021 @07:39AM (#28669470)

let me try and find the post about it

*edit

https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/ here is a post from moxie himself about why its centralised not decentralised

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Re:Signal is experiencing technical difficulties by Jazww on Monday September 27, 2021 @07:22AM (#28669359)

Decentralization is not some great magic. Its a gigantic pain in the ass to fix even a single simple issue across all those servers.

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Re:Signal is experiencing technical difficulties by ninchuka on Monday September 27, 2021 @07:38AM (#28669465)

true but it would've helped with the issue of being overloaded at least abit

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Re:Signal is experiencing technical difficulties by pmlnr on Monday September 27, 2021 @07:59AM (#28669600)

> user-hosted instances of the Signal

Those are called XMPP or Matrix ;)

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