San Francisco raises Tesla 'self-driving' safety concerns as public test nears

Re:San Francisco raises Tesla 'self-driving' safety concerns... by onethought on Sunday September 26, 2021 @06:53AM (#28659851)

Sure. My point exactly was… no one seems to care about the countless meaningless terms automotive industry uses. But suddenly we are dissecting the possible Meanings of a feature that actually is pretty close to what it says.

Autopilot keeps your heading and velocity and is aware of objects in its path… so that’s extremely similar to autopilot in a plane.

Full self driving drives the car on its own. It still monitors driver awareness. But the car does most of the driving. I don’t see the issue. It does what it says.

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Re:San Francisco raises Tesla 'self-driving' safety concerns... by sidibe on Sunday September 26, 2021 @11:25AM (#28661585)

> It does what it says.

> Full self driving drives the car on its own. It still monitors driver awareness. But the car does most of the driving.

Full directly contradicts most

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Re:San Francisco raises Tesla 'self-driving' safety concerns... by onethought on Monday September 27, 2021 @02:23AM (#28667647)

Again, it’s closer to what it does than Blue Motion. Or Toyotas latest “Safety Sense” (even though it sense hazards aka forward collision detection…)

I can reel out examples all day, that no one bats an eye at. But Tesla so something… it’s a whole different ball game.

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Re:San Francisco raises Tesla 'self-driving' safety concerns... by sidibe on Monday September 27, 2021 @08:46AM (#28669997)

Uh neither of those even suggest what it does while Tesla's says it does something it doesn't do

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Re:San Francisco raises Tesla 'self-driving' safety concerns... by onethought on Tuesday September 28, 2021 @06:04AM (#28681018)

So esoteric meaningless names are good.

Descriptive names are bad, because: I don’t think full self driving is full if there are any interventions.

(Despite there being a sliding scale of autonomous driving from levels 1 to 5 with FSD easily falling into 3 if not 4).

Teslas official literature classes it at level 2. But yep, super misleading compared to “Safe Sense” (aka forward hazard detection). Do you know what Tesla call that feature: “forward hazard detection” those bastards with their descriptive names!

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