you cannot be serious... I've done nordschliffe over a hundred times in simulator... every corner is memorized... i'm not even amateur let alone professional
I'm also waiting for someone to find a faster 4 door time, my original comment that everyone is ignoring to teardown a strawman "fastest car ever" argument no one made
Didn't you read my previous comment? Porsche Panamera Turbo S is the answer, just look at the official Nordschleife Records Database.
Tesla Plaid: 7:35.579
Porsche Panamera Turbo S: 7:29.81
The Porsche did it in 2020, Tesla in 2021. The Porsche is also a 4 door car.
But they are also separated by these https://www.summitracing.com/parts/MHL-51138
We will see if that 5.7s is comfortable enough when the tesla also has a rollcage and racing tires...
until then it's speculative which is faster.. since it's been 2 years, surely we have some Porsche times with stock tires you can share???
Theres also a few M3 reports, but I cant tell which ones are stock
https://www.alvolante.it/news/alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio...
Also, consider that the weight penalty for an EV four door is less than for a two door. Which makes sense, electric propulsion has always made sense for heavier vehicles
Lauda almost killed himself there. Toto Wolf almost killed himself there.
Are you sure you know the Nordschlieffe better than those two blokes?
moving the goal to endurance racing is interesting choice... because this conversation is about the performance capabilities of a car... not about the best cruising vehicle or enduro series winner...
It's almost as if off-track performance of refueling speed is the only metric left for clear ICE dominance?
- I think every proposition (not just sentence) of this comment is wrong.
- Tesla, not only didn't break the lap record (they only broke the EV record) which is ridiculous, but the Ring is probably the best suited lap for an EV: large track with mostly long straights or gentle curves. Try breaking the lap record at Suzuka.[1]
- Even if Tesla had the record, a single lap is hardly a fair comparison to a Ferrari or a McLaren. The Tesla couldn't do 30 laps before taking 4 hours to recharge. Those ICE cars are raced in LeMans 24. That's 24 hr. straight of driving. I'd love to see a Tesla compete in that.
[1] Full respect to the Ring - see Rush's explanation for it in the link bellow. But the Ring Niki did in under 7 minutes [2] in the 1970s is not the ring of today, and the prime difficulty of the Ring is that it's so long that
a. Weather conditions are different around the track
b. No driver can really learn the track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjyIrLKgbbA
[2] Niki's record still stands today because the original, much longer, ring is no longer.