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Re:Murder rate rose by almost 30% in 2020 in the US by derstander on Friday September 24, 2021 @10:33AM (#28642966)
> Do you seriously propose that 'defund the police' has no effect whatsoever on the murder rate?

This is a straw man of the parent’s position. They say “ blaming it on the "Defund the police" movement is a lazy oversimplification”, not that it had “no effect whatsoever”.

It certainly seems plausible to me that having loads of people — particularly those in lower socio-economic strata - without employment for an extended period of time could certainly contribute to crime rate increases.

There’s no need for straw-manning/hysterics here, we can have a measured conversation or debate.

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Re:Murder rate rose by almost 30% in 2020 in the US by xmprt on Friday September 24, 2021 @04:02PM (#28647158)
Your second approach is just a different way of saying the first.