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Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by dmitriid on Thursday September 23, 2021 @10:32AM (#28629689)
> Nobody forces you to buy a consumer-unfriendly product that also happens to be arbitrarily expensive.

If anything, Apple's Lightning port (and the 30-pin connector before that) are significantly more consumer-friendly than USB. Where consumers are consumers of Apple products, but still.

In the span of time when Apple only had two connectors, USB went through 3 or 4. USB didn't even have a charging standard until 2012 (the year Lightning was introduced).

And even with USB-C it's still a hodge-podge of standards with multiple optional and non-optional parts, and it's not getting better: https://old.reddit.com/r/UsbCHardware/comments/mjz2pu/usb4_a...

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by toyg on Thursday September 23, 2021 @10:39AM (#28629795)
A single, monopolistic market would also be "consumer friendly", given those parameters. Obviously we don't want that, do we?

Getting multiple manufacturers to agree on anything is always going to be a challenge and produce some compromises. But it's still better for the market as a whole, which in turn is better for consumers. I look forward to the chance of buying a single, universal charger with great features that will last me decades, from a vendor that may or may not be a phone-manufacturer. Apple would gladly do their worse to stop me from doing that, if they could.

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by dmitriid on Thursday September 23, 2021 @12:22PM (#28631340)
> I look forward to the chance of buying a single, universal charger with great features that will last me decades

I really highly doubt about the decades part. I also highly doubt about the "single charger with great features" because USB has so many optional parts that many manufacturers are unlikely to implement.

Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by alpaca128 on Thursday September 23, 2021 @12:35PM (#28631517)
I fail to see how any kind of proprietary product can be more consumer friendly than an open standard. As I see it that cannot be true by definition.
Re:EU plans to force OEMs to use a common charger for all ph... by dmitriid on Friday September 24, 2021 @02:25AM (#28639206)
There's definition and there's reality.

These are all the plugs USB has come up with over the years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hardware

I still have a bunch of USB cables and devices at home, and I every time I have to use them I struggle to find the right combination.

Standardization is good. But in this case USB is objectively not a better standard than Apple's proprietary one.