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Re:It costs $436 to deploy a smartcontract on Ethereum by ohgodplsno on Thursday September 23, 2021 @02:41AM (#28625878)
Solana is a fully centralized chain completely controlled by its creators, as evidenced by their recent unilateral shutdown on the last bug. Regular blockchains are already utterly useless, but they have the benefit of being decentralized. Solana is a scam, and so are 99% of the chains being created.
Re:It costs $436 to deploy a smartcontract on Ethereum by encryptluks2 on Thursday September 23, 2021 @02:58AM (#28625999)
Having an issue due to bugs exacerbated by market volatility and IPOs don't mean that something is centralized as indicated by the issue report, it just means it still has kinks—which is why mainnet is still considered beta until it proves otherwise. Additionally, anyone can run a validator node but the specs needed are beefier compared to something like Algorand, so the more people running nodes then the more decentralized it becomes.
Re:It costs $436 to deploy a smartcontract on Ethereum by inter_netuser on Thursday September 23, 2021 @04:00AM (#28626438)
It was DDOSed. Someone actually attacked it.
Re:It costs $436 to deploy a smartcontract on Ethereum by tac0_ on Thursday September 23, 2021 @02:44AM (#28625901)
> Regular blockchains are already utterly useless

Curious why you think so? Also agree Solana is quite centralized but I wouldn't say it's a scam.

Re:It costs $436 to deploy a smartcontract on Ethereum by anizan on Thursday September 23, 2021 @03:02AM (#28626029)
This is just one of many VC backed coins trying to be the next Ethereum. These VC coins don't enable mining so there's no dilution on the initial holders. Saving the environment is just a nice alibi to lock in the cap table.

There's also no disclosure on what price did the initial round happen at. 40 cents/80 cents /1$? If you buy Gold/Copper you have a fair idea on what the mining cost is for the industry. These are just fairytales propagated by further vc money to build more virtual fantasies on the database they control.

Re:It costs $436 to deploy a smartcontract on Ethereum by robfitz on Thursday September 23, 2021 @03:34AM (#28626267)
First round price was disclosed by Kyle Samani in this video[1] as $0.04 per SOL. They're currently up about 4000x.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68RqaSL3Ruk

Re:It costs $436 to deploy a smartcontract on Ethereum by inter_netuser on Thursday September 23, 2021 @03:54AM (#28626395)
And Ethereum didn't have a presale of 70%+ of the supply? That somehow didn't lock-in the captable? ETH foundation (which is completely non-transparent btw) doesn't control the trademark and employs go-eth team?

I guess 30% for miners is a nice alibi.

Re:It costs $436 to deploy a smartcontract on Ethereum by anizan on Thursday September 23, 2021 @04:28AM (#28626601)
You have incremental supply on ETH available to those who deploy mining assets. This broadens ownership through dilution. Solana has had multiple funding rounds and not just one. They can continue to have as many funding rounds as they like.

There will be never be dilution of Solana holders to allow for decentralisation. To earn coins through staking you need to be a preexisting holder.

Running a node doesn't make economic sense and there are plenty of validators which don't charge a commission for delegation. You have no variable costs as an entrenched holder who can just stake coins for more coins till eternity.

All future supply on Solana will only take place through staking unless the backers think otherwise. https://etherscan.io/chart/ethersupplygrowth

Re:It costs $436 to deploy a smartcontract on Ethereum by inter_netuser on Thursday September 23, 2021 @04:40AM (#28626662)
So I'm guessing starting a brand new EVM chain and mine/stake from scratch is most optimal to broaden ownership then?

Time to scrap ETH and start from scratch?

Re:It costs $436 to deploy a smartcontract on Ethereum by inter_netuser on Thursday September 23, 2021 @03:49AM (#28626364)
scam = didn't buy the presale

revolutionary = bought the presale

Re:It costs $436 to deploy a smartcontract on Ethereum by ohgodplsno on Thursday September 23, 2021 @05:35AM (#28627034)
Now now, I have some self respect, I consider every single one of them a complete scam.