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Re:Agile Is Dead, McKinsey Just Killed It by tempodox on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @06:30AM (#28614802)
Title is click bait, if McKinsey killed it then so did every other org that misuses “agile”.

And here's the revelation in the article:

Agile’s underlying principles and values are now table stakes for any organisation.

I leave it to everyone else to make up their own opinion about that.

Re:Agile Is Dead, McKinsey Just Killed It by matt_s on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @06:54AM (#28614947)
And here I was thinking to throw away everything I've been doing and just go back to waterfall.

Title could have been "Consulting company promotes themselves"

Re:Agile Is Dead, McKinsey Just Killed It by pjmlp on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @07:24AM (#28615140)
I have long returned back to waterfall, it just happens to take two weeks at a time.

Pure agile never worked on non-software industries, due to the way all parties expect to deal with requirements, demos, documentation, long term roadmaps, budget allocation for next year projects,...

Re:Agile Is Dead, McKinsey Just Killed It by matt_s on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @09:46AM (#28616259)
Totally agree that non-software benefits from traditional project planning. In a project management class it was taught that the project framework should be adapted to the project.

It sounds really formal but planning how you plan the project is key for some things. For example, I would guess building a nuclear power plant isn't an iterative type of project. Lots of risks and lots of sequential activities. A team could probably spend weeks to months just planning the plan.

Re:Agile Is Dead, McKinsey Just Killed It by pjmlp on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @10:17AM (#28616557)
Even more basic examples, like when is the software ready with 100% feature capabilities, so that everyone can take a training.

Schedule, travel accommodations, teaching materials, trainers,.... need to be accounted for and planned on due time, on synch with go live for the new infrastructure.

Re:Agile Is Dead, McKinsey Just Killed It by throwaway_Aef8 on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @11:18AM (#28617326)
"Small Consulting company promotes themselves by attacking Large Consulting company by playing off allegiances to tech religions"

https://devbizops.medium.com/are-you-tech-religious-fb281b39...

Re:Agile Is Dead, McKinsey Just Killed It by PaulKeeble on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @03:40PM (#28620826)
Shocker that organisations that could never work out what agile was and no intention of adopting the principles of it are still redefining what it means. Nothing changed they have been doing that for 2 decades ever since it took off, most large organisations never want to empower their staff so they fail at step 0, they don't want what agile is selling. They are finding it awfully hard to find staff however if they don't list it!
Re:Agile Is Dead, McKinsey Just Killed It by rualca on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @06:50AM (#28614916)
> Title is click bait, if McKinsey killed it then so did every other org that misuses “agile”. (...) > I leave it to everyone else to make up their own opinion about that.

Yeah the article is pretty bad. Indeed it all boils down to your run-of-the-mill regurgitated and recycled complain that organizations abuse trendy keywords without any intention to actually follow through.

All in all, a waste of a perfectly good click.

Re:Agile Is Dead, McKinsey Just Killed It by tempodox on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @09:47AM (#28616269)
All clicks are final. There is no reimbursement.