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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by resonious on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @01:06AM (#28613236)
I really wish people talked about this stuff more when it comes to laptops. Hot temps and loud fans are a super turn-off for me. I'm willing to compromise performance for a quieter, cooler runtime, but usually all I can find out about a laptop is its processor clock speed and a horribly inaccurate battery life estimate.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by spuz on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @03:50AM (#28613997)
Most of the laptops reviewed by Linus Tech Tips consider thermals and fan noise.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by smoldesu on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @08:51AM (#28615719)
Computer thermals are weird. You can ultimately choose between a gimped device that stays cool under load or a spectacularly hot, dynamically clocked CPU. I normally cut the clock speed of my CPU in half with any new laptop, since I'm really only going to use it for text editing/SSH. That alone is good enough to lock it below 40c, but there are other ways to achieve a similar effect.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by leshow on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @12:39PM (#28618484)
on x86 at least
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by bodge5000 on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @07:11AM (#28615059)
Loud fans and hot temps are fine for me, in isolation. But knowing those hot temps (and to a degree those loud fans) are slowly killing my laptop, and likely very quickly killing my battery, much faster than you'd imagine, yeh, it suddenly becomes a bigger priority.

For me, I've never found a laptop as good as the older thinkpads at handling temps.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by deergomoo on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @08:15AM (#28615450)
I had a 16" MacBook Pro that was so hot and loud all the time that I just couldn't stand it anymore and sold it to buy an M1 MacBook Air, which thankfully doesn't even have a fan.

I don't understand how it didn't come up in any reviews, because you don't have to push it super hard to make it happen.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by hansel_der on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @11:47AM (#28617730)
with most laptops one can set the fanspeed via software and let the built-in thermal throttling keep the machine from melting down.

peak performance is fine, but sustained speed takes quite a hit.