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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by int_19h on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @08:36PM (#28611814)
Hence the solution that the Framework offers: a device body that allocates space for USB-C dongles such that they fit flush when installed.

Now all we need is an industry standard for those.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by ninkendo on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @09:00PM (#28611984)
How many additional watt-hours of battery would they have been able to fit in the laptop if they didn’t have the carve-outs for such dongles?

Say what you want about the MacBook’s lack of user-replacability, but it’s basically a tiny chip board about the same size as the iPhone’s, with a big box of batteries holding it.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by Dylan16807 on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @05:46AM (#28614575)
> How many additional watt-hours of battery would they have been able to fit in the laptop if they didn’t have the carve-outs for such dongles?

Looking at the insides, I'm going to guess about 2 watt hours. Or they could have made it unmeasurably thinner.

> Say what you want about the MacBook’s lack of user-replacability, but it’s basically a tiny chip board about the same size as the iPhone’s, with a big box of batteries holding it.

Framework has 55 watt hours. The obsolete macbooks have 41. Both intel and M1 macbook pros have 58. Both intel and M1 macbook airs have 50.

Sounds like that lack of user-replacability isn't necessary.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by NikolaNovak on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @09:37PM (#28612220)
Yeah I'm still waiting on the improved battery life that losing 3.5mm was supposed to give me.

Not buying it. I'll take extra 2mm for 3.5mm and usb a.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by ddoeth on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @07:35AM (#28615211)
Going to get into the 1.5mm jack life
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by romwell on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @11:59PM (#28612987)
Not enough to justify cutting them out.

(The answer is of the same level as question. If you want to imply that there's a significant gain, go prove it.)

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by romwell on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @08:48PM (#28611901)
Yup, I'm singing praise to Framework here.

The sanest system I've seen in a decade at least.

I don't even need a new laptop, and I still want this one.

Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by heisenzombie on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @09:13PM (#28612061)
I guess PCMCIA was kind of like this. Of course dongles were bigger back then.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by girvo on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @11:29PM (#28612831)
Man I loved the idea of PCMCIA back in the day. Mobile network access (EDGE, if I remember correctly) via one of them on my chunky Toshiba was awesome.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by toyg on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @04:03AM (#28614062)
I was fascinated by PCMCIA, because I had a laptop I was trying to put OpenBSD on it in 2001 and its ethernet port was not working, so the card was a workaround. I always wondered why it didn't really take off in Europe, it was a simple and pretty compact way (for the time) to get very advanced stuff in a laptop - I guess it was expensive to produce and the name was atrocious. I believe it got more popular in Japan.