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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by infogulch on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @06:25PM (#28610790)
I hope that this is what USB4 will bring, since iiuc, USB4 is basically the IF's name for Thunderbolt-4-capable USB-C. This was enabled by Intel contributing the TB4 spec to the committee, in a shockingly benevolent move that I guess may have been the greatest internal political feat Intel staff pulled off in the last decade.

Edit: Oh and presumably the ports on the Framework are USB4, they just can't say that yet because the certification is still in the works.

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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by mixmastamyk on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @07:32PM (#28611344)
Really? Interesting if true. Is that the case with other new intel gear?
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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by infogulch on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @07:46PM (#28611450)
Ah it seems I was slightly off, it's TB3 not TB4, "The USB4 specification is based on the Thunderbolt 3 protocol specification." [0] But it does require: USB-PD, PCIe & DP tunneling, minimum 20 Gbit speed, max 40 Gbit speed. Stated goals to "minimize end-user confusion".

I've seen some peripherals and such with it, no laptops yet though. The spec was released in 2019, so considering hardware cycle time we should start to see more devices soon. It's pretty cool that Framework will likely be on the leading edge of that wave.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB4

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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by jjoonathan on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @10:26PM (#28612510)
> PCIe tunneling

Hell yeah, USB over PCIe over USB over PCIe here we goooooo!

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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by curt15 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @09:57PM (#28612345)
The Dell XPS 13 9310 has two TB4/USB4 ports.
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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by iSnow on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @04:14AM (#28614109)
Is Dell still gimping them to 10Gbit/s like they used to? Considered an 13" XPS for years, but then turned to Apple because of this ridiculous decision.
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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by Dylan16807 on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @05:17AM (#28614429)
They'd better not be. Thunderbolt 4 mandates 32Gbps of data.

The site says each port has 4 lanes of pcie 3.0

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