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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by philliphaydon on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:00PM (#28607781)
Why are you growing unhappy? (I have a X1 Extreme Gen 1, and Legion 7, and Legion 5 Pro, so I'm curious)
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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by renke1 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:08PM (#28607879)
A few things. The newer TrackPoint caps are not good. I actually had to order some 3D printed one from some Japanese guy. Also my Thinkpad T14 is throttling to the extent that I had to install tools [1] (?) that fix this problem. Battery seems to be bad as well. Intel by the way, I wanted to have Thunderbolt for an eGPU.

[1]: https://github.com/erpalma/throttled

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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by matthewn on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:56PM (#28609189)
> I actually had to order some 3D printed one from some Japanese guy

Thank you for mentioning this alternative! Just found him on Etsy. I have always preferred the old-style concave nibs for TrackPoints over the new convex ones. This will be a serious improvement for my Thinkpad.

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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by renke1 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @04:15PM (#28609397)
It's an improvement but they are not as good as the old ones which were slightly larger.

I still use one of those on my external Thinkpad keyboard.

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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by philliphaydon on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:42PM (#28608277)
Work gave me a dell XPS last year. I had it for a Week and gave it back because when I turned it on. The fans spin full throttle. And the laptop still throttled itself. So I use my X1E for work. The nipple is as good but it’s flat for the thin profile.

I upgraded all 3 laptops with more or better ram, wifi, and ssds. And currently ordering a Traditional Chinese keyboard for the L5P for the wifey. But I took AMD for the legions.

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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by renke1 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @04:10PM (#28609348)
I regret not opting for the Ryzen variant, but I really wanted to replace my old desktop computer for the occasional gaming session (although they are rare these days) and hence the need for Thunderbolt.
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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by orthecreedence on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:54PM (#28608460)
Bundled spyware. That's why I swore off Lenovo.
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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by renke1 on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @04:09PM (#28609333)
I've bought it without any OS installed. But of course the general practice may be good reason to avoid Lenovo (if you can live without a TrackPoint, that is).
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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by orthecreedence on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @05:14PM (#28610049)
Joke's on you, the spyware was in the bootloader =]
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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by soperj on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:16PM (#28607978)
Soldered Ram.
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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by philliphaydon on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:38PM (#28608221)
Oh so dependent on the actual model not ThinkPads themselves.
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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by soperj on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:52PM (#28609133)
As far as I've seen nearly all of them have Soldered ram now. Can you point to some that don't?
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Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used by rhblake on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @04:17PM (#28609415)
Some of the latest models in the "classic" lines with one or more RAM slots: P14s Gen 2 AMD/Intel (a.k.a. T14 Gen 2 AMD/Intel); T15 Gen 2 / P15s Gen 2; P15 Gen 2; T15p Gen 2; P1 Gen 4; X1 Extreme Gen 4. Plus some of the slightly more "budget" ones like L14 Gen 2 AMD/Intel and E14 Gen 3 AMD.

Tip: search "<model name> psref" to quickly get to a PDF with specifications.

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