Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
by conradfr on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @02:41PM
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I wanted to buy a new laptop last year and was shocked:
1/ A lot of them (most?) had 8Go of RAM. 16Go is rare and 32Go even more. What year is it?!
2/ Most have soldiered RAM without an additional slot.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
by dwaite on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:32PM
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Soldered ram significantly decreases repair incidents (from unseated laptop ram) and increases runtime reliability (from direct electrical contact of said ram). It allows for the machine to ship with an optimized ram configuration (lane count, timing). It also reduces the part cost and device footprint.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
by donmcronald on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:47PM
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Most RAM comes with a "lifetime" warranty. IMO if the soldered RAM is so great, they should give me a lifetime guarantee they'll replace the MB if the soldered RAM fails. Then I'd be ok with it.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
by dwaite on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @04:30PM
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In the sense that products which do not support third-party repairability should generally have a higher first party warranty requirement, I agree.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
by m463 on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @07:38PM
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Then they should charge less for soldered ram - more in line with wholesale prices.
Re:The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
by donmcronald on Tuesday September 21, 2021 @03:45PM
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And it's impossible to buy an upgrade for just one component. If you want 16GB of RAM you better be ready to buy an i7. If you want a nice 4k display you better be ready to buy a totally maxed out machine.
Just being able to use my own NVMe disk in something like a Framework translates into savings for me because I don't need a huge disk in my laptop and can reuse one that's too small for my server or desktop.
what they want is:
To sell you a laptop with a current cpu and memory.
If you are "price insensitive" they will allow you to get a better cpu or more memory for a significant upcharge.
next year, they want:
To sell you a laptop with a current cpu and memory.
They do not want you upgrading the cpu or memory yourself
They do not want you to add next-year's cpu yourself next year.