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Re:Home Price to Income Ratio by ChuckNorris89 on Monday September 20, 2021 @05:16PM (#28599112)
>If the middle class are the ones buying the properties, then they're the ones selling them.

Sorry but since you make no distinction between someone owning and selling a house ($500k asset in Austria) and someone who doesn't own a house and call them both middles class is just plain wrong.

The property owner middle classer is significantly better off than than the other and would benefit even more from your intention of buying while the other middle classer is worse off without a property to his name and will suffer more from being in competition with you.

Sure, one guy profits, but you can't possibly tell me with a straight face someone else doesn't get screwed from this wealth driven game of music chairs which is the property market right now.

Re:Home Price to Income Ratio by quantumBerry on Monday September 20, 2021 @05:19PM (#28599142)
You just said the middle class was the competition for these houses. If the middle class are the ones who own these houses it follows they are the ones selling them. You seem upset you were caught up in your fallacious logic and fail to understand it's the middle class making the money off these sales.
Re:Home Price to Income Ratio by ChuckNorris89 on Monday September 20, 2021 @05:28PM (#28599231)
I think you misunderstood my comment, but whatever. Still, to follow up on your latest example, the classes below those who own the properties you want to buy get screwed since you're still increasing inequality between the asset owners and the non-asset owners by increasing housing demand. Simple.
Re:Home Price to Income Ratio by quantumBerry on Monday September 20, 2021 @05:38PM (#28599331)
I don't follow. The total wealth inside country starts out here:

value of house + value of rest of economy.

Now someone foreign comes into the country to live there and work in tech from abroad. They buy a house. Now the wealth inside the country looks like this:

value of house + foreign money paid for house + value of rest of country.

You can see that the wealth inside the country has increased. If it is the middle class owning those houses, then the wealth of middle class has changed by the difference in value between the value of the house and what it was sold for. The middle class then further benefits from whatever money the foreign worker spends in the country, which is a net gain for the middle class, plus the injection into the economy of the foreign money paid for the house. The only way the middle class end up worse off here is if the foreigner doesn't live and work here, and is just a foreign landlord (siphoning money out of the country) -- which is something I think we can both agree is detrimental.

I will say here in the US people have a lot of problems with foreign landlords and people who buy property here and don't live here. But only the most backwards rednecks have serious issue with an honest foreigner who buys a normal middle class house to live their lives, especially if they are injecting foreign capital into our economy.