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Re:An appeal for an objective, open, transparent debate re: ...
by civilized on Sunday September 19, 2021 @09:14PM
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Ivermectin is safe in humans, and it isn't difficult to find that out.
I'm ignoring your speculation about me and plan to continue to do so, so let's not bore each other.
Re:An appeal for an objective, open, transparent debate re: ...
by chitowneats on Sunday September 19, 2021 @09:17PM
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Ivermectin is safe. It's an anti-parasitic, not an anti-viral. Is it effective against covid? There are very smart people out there who have serious concerns with the primary study Ivermectin proponents point to showing effectiveness against this virus.
In all fairness, my entire qualm with you is the way you've needlessly personalized this discussion. We could have discussed the issues at hand directly. Alas.
Re:An appeal for an objective, open, transparent debate re: ...
by ipaddr on Monday September 20, 2021 @12:06AM
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What I have never understood is if you don't want the vaccine because the long term studies are due in 2023 what subset of this group is pro Ivermectin? Ivermectin used on humans is a new area with fewer studies.
Re:An appeal for an objective, open, transparent debate re: ...
by Mountain_Skies on Monday September 20, 2021 @01:00AM
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No. Ivermectin use is humans is very well understood and has been for quite some time. What isn't well understood is what is the level of effectiveness of Ivermectin in preventing the spread of covid and treating the symptoms of the disease. It's an absolutely ridiculous statement to say Ivermectin in humans is not well studied. Whoever told you that had an agenda and you should be very skeptical of anything else they tell you. There is no equivalence in uncertainty between Ivermectin and the mRNA covid treatments.
Re:An appeal for an objective, open, transparent debate re: ...
by a_conservative on Monday September 20, 2021 @03:39PM
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Billions of doses of Ivermectin have been taken by humans.
Re:An appeal for an objective, open, transparent debate re: ...
by sudosysgen on Monday September 20, 2021 @09:55AM
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Ivermectin is not safe in humans at the quantities required for it's observed antiviral effect against COVID.
Re:An appeal for an objective, open, transparent debate re: ...
by nradov on Monday September 20, 2021 @01:24PM
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At least one small clinical study found that ivermectin was clinically effective at a safe dosage of 150 μg/kg. More research is needed to determine if this is a real effect or just random chance.
Re:An appeal for an objective, open, transparent debate re: ...
by sudosysgen on Monday September 20, 2021 @01:32PM
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150ug/kg is the typical dose for deworming effect.
The antiviral effects were found in vitro at, if I remember correctly, around 8x the concentration that would be found in typical treatment.
It's not just some innocent difficulty with finding the signal in the noise. It's sentimental, ideological delusion, and it's rotten to the core. And deep down, I believe many of them do know better, even if they stopped caring years ago.
I won't pointlessly anger them by saying so to their faces, but I also won't patronize them by pretending otherwise.