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Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by TheOtherHobbes on Sunday September 19, 2021 @02:06PM (#28586487)
Act 3 in a traditional three act story structure is sometimes called The Ticking Clock because it's traditional to include a countdown.

Having a literal countdown timer - usually for a bomb - is a standard trope in action thrillers. But any kind of deadline will do.

Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by laurent92 on Sunday September 19, 2021 @05:31PM (#28588122)
Now, when I see a bomb in movies, I always measure the countdown. The fact that they extend it kills quite a lot of suspense.
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by andrew-dc on Monday September 20, 2021 @09:41AM (#28593693)
Ever attempted to hold your breath for as long as some characters are shown to be submerged doing this or that in a movie? Similarly disappointing. ;P
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by jraph on Monday September 20, 2021 @12:40PM (#28595712)
Disappointing to death.
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by skohan on Sunday September 19, 2021 @11:19PM (#28590091)
Yeah I find this to be a cheap trick and it really takes me out of the experience. Another example is when the characters are running away from a threat which should clearly be able to overtake them.
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by retsibsi on Monday September 20, 2021 @12:17AM (#28590342)
The version that bothers me most is when the threat clearly is catching up to them, but some kind of unexplained time dilation allows them to escape. In one shot the threat is a few metres away and closing fast, then in the next shot the hero spends much more time escaping than was actually available.
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by skohan on Monday September 20, 2021 @07:57AM (#28592806)
Yeah this is exactly what I am talking about - this is where a movie completely loses me. Like there can be a shot of the people running from a wolf or something toward a door, and from the profile shot you can clearly see that the wolf will close the gap before they reach the door, but somehow they just barely make it. I know they are trying to increase the tension, but it's a cheap trick and would work just as well if they obeyed the laws of physics.
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by MaxBarraclough on Monday September 20, 2021 @02:31AM (#28590869)
> when the characters are running away from a threat which should clearly be able to overtake them

Many films have the heroes outrun an explosion.

Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by wolverine876 on Sunday September 19, 2021 @07:11PM (#28588821)
Maybe your suspense is killed by focusing on your stopwatch instead of the characters, story, etc.
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by UI_at_80x24 on Sunday September 19, 2021 @09:00PM (#28589423)
Instead of being an ass please try to understand that some personality types do things like this because that's how we are wired.

I count...

  ...seconds the hero is underwater
  ...seconds until the bomb is going to explode
  ...number of bullets fired from a 6-round revolver
  ...etc
I don't like it all the time. Hell at times i wish I didn't, but I also cackle with glee when I discover a mistake in the continuity of a film that depends on these plot devices. So it's 50/50 love/hate thing for me.

I already know I'm kind of atypical with most aspects of my life but your advice is as helpful as telling an introvert to just go out and socialize more. Please be aware that words like yours rub salt in an open wound. I'd be fucking normal if I could help it.

Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by kbenson on Sunday September 19, 2021 @10:22PM (#28589827)
It also makes those movies that really try to adhere to not breaking the suspension of disbelief for those things all the greater.

I too often find myself counting time and bullets. Stuff like that doesn't always arise in a vacuum, for me it was being exposed to movies that toed the line enough in most aspect that completely if iring certain things (like time or bullet counts) took me out of the film because it was so egregious, and then once you start seeing those things, it's hard not to be aware of them.

But, like I said above, those directors that go the extra mile to make everything line up provide that little extra bit of joy, just like little plot loose ends being nearly resolved when lesser directors wouldn't care to address them.

Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by User23 on Sunday September 19, 2021 @10:28PM (#28589859)
Doubtless continuity goofs are a thing. But have you tried considering that a movie is a narrative? Try imagining that there are actual real events that the storyteller is describing, and then imagine that storyteller is only human and considerably less attentive to minutiae than you are. Perhaps the storyteller forgets to tell about the time the cowboy switched revolvers, or spends more time talking about what the hero is doing than the remaining time on the fuse would seem to permit.
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by yesenadam on Monday September 20, 2021 @12:53AM (#28590483)
> Instead of being an ass

No matter what personality type you are, please don't talk to people like this on HN. Thanks. To ask someone to be aware of the effect of their words moments after being gratuitously rude to them, to jump on strangers because they don't already somehow know you and your needs, seems unreasonable. The GP's comment seemed perfectly mild and reasonable to me.

Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by bmn__ on Monday September 20, 2021 @03:54AM (#28591275)
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by skohan on Sunday September 19, 2021 @11:22PM (#28590107)
It's good to have a certain amount of suspension of disbelief when consuming media, but when it gets to the point where the laws of physics are just clearly being broken, it also takes me out of the experience.
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by int_19h on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @01:13AM (#28613254)
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by Arrath on Monday September 20, 2021 @01:44PM (#28596503)
Its always fun when they honor the countdown, though.
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by cheschire on Sunday September 19, 2021 @05:13PM (#28587982)
What are some good search queries to learn more about these types of standard structures, especially as it pertains to film and TV?
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by karlkeefer on Sunday September 19, 2021 @05:55PM (#28588303)
https://tvtropes.org/ has a ton of this kind of thing - not sure if that scratches your itch!
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by jholman on Sunday September 19, 2021 @06:39PM (#28588592)
Holy shit, just linking to an meme weapon like that, and not warning people? Not cool!

To the uninitiated, do not follow that link unless you don't have anything else you need to do today. It is famous for destroying days of productivity.

Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by bmn__ on Monday September 20, 2021 @03:56AM (#28591288)
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by Akronymus on Monday September 20, 2021 @03:55AM (#28591283)
Obligatory xkcd https://xkcd.com/609/

But yeah, tvtropes usually leads me down a wiki walk as well whenever posted.

Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by od1nos on Sunday September 19, 2021 @05:58PM (#28588323)
You can browse for all of them on https://tvtropes.org/
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by smogcutter on Sunday September 19, 2021 @10:02PM (#28589730)
Tvtropes as others have said, but for structure what you want is an intro screenwriting book. “Save the Cat” is a good one, and Syd Field is a classic (although dated).
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by cheschire on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @08:25PM (#28623818)
Thank you this is closer to what I was looking for
Re:Why we picture bombs as round black balls with a burning ... by User23 on Sunday September 19, 2021 @10:30PM (#28589867)
Ever wonder about the bombs bursting in air from the US national anthem when it was written before bomber planes? Yep it’s the cartoon bomb[1].

[1] https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CartoonBomb