France recalls US and AU ambassadors over sub-deal

Re:France recalls US and AU ambassadors over sub-deal by throwaway4good on Saturday September 18, 2021 @05:42PM (#28579597)

If anything this story shows how powerful the military industrial complexes are (in France, in the US). The threat from China is speculative but the business opportunities for the military industry are quite real and massive in size.

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Re:France recalls US and AU ambassadors over sub-deal by option on Saturday September 18, 2021 @05:49PM (#28579657)

the threat from China is not speculative see their threats of invading Taiwan.

I lived in Ukraine where up until 2014 the threat of Russia taking Crimea and eastern provinces was “speculative”.

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Re:France recalls US and AU ambassadors over sub-deal by throwaway4good on Saturday September 18, 2021 @06:04PM (#28579757)

If anything it weakens the alliance against China (by clouding European support) and it doesn’t really matter if those subs sail under Australian or US flag. This is an arms deal with clumsy politics around it.

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Re:France recalls US and AU ambassadors over sub-deal by worrycue on Sunday September 19, 2021 @02:45AM (#28582222)

Given the EU-China trade deal not sure the US trust the EU to be part of the alliance against China.

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Re:France recalls US and AU ambassadors over sub-deal by option on Saturday September 18, 2021 @06:11PM (#28579810)

I agree, there should be a stronger Western alliance. Excluding France does seem strange.

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Re:France recalls US and AU ambassadors over sub-deal by yyyk on Saturday September 18, 2021 @06:43PM (#28580014)

If they did not exclude France, the acronym would have been FAUKUS and we can't have that ;-)

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Re:France recalls US and AU ambassadors over sub-deal by giggzy2 on Saturday September 18, 2021 @07:01PM (#28580130)

Brilliant

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