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Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by nickthemagicman on Saturday September 18, 2021 @04:11PM (#28578902)
Seems like that's another benefit of IPv6.

Without needing NAT everyone can have their own IP address and biz will be able to ban individual machines instead of some giant NAT Network because one host using that IP address is compromised.

Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by laurensr on Saturday September 18, 2021 @04:39PM (#28579110)
Doesn't it also mean addresses serving as the source of an attack become more disposable?
Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by nickthemagicman on Sunday September 19, 2021 @01:15PM (#28586019)
The hackers still have to compromise the host right?
Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by MrStonedOne on Saturday September 18, 2021 @05:04PM (#28579280)
if you are sending packets but don't care about the reply, you can spoof the from header.

The other form of ddos is udp amplification. you send a packet to a legit host and spoof the target ip as the from ip, the reply goes to your target and bam, ddos.

Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by nickthemagicman on Sunday September 19, 2021 @01:17PM (#28586035)
Yep but that never opens a full connection. You can filter on hosts who dont respond to an ACK after a certain amount of fails.

Most machines don't have UDP services open to accept packets.

Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by MrStonedOne on Sunday September 19, 2021 @01:25PM (#28586118)
all machines need udp opened to get response from ntp and dns.

moving these to tcp would actually seriously help with filtering ddos, but good luck.

Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by nickthemagicman on Wednesday September 22, 2021 @12:14AM (#28613049)
Yeah but as I understand it, Port 22 doesn't just sit open on a machine waiting for any connection.

Running a quick netstat -p udp doesn't show any UDP entrys with LISTENING status.

Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by kazen44 on Saturday September 18, 2021 @05:50PM (#28579665)
this could be solved in ipv6 by implementing ipsec in AH mode.
Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by Gigachad on Saturday September 18, 2021 @07:52PM (#28580424)
Most devices are configured to randomize part of the v6 address for privacy so you can no longer see more info than ipv4 would show.
Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by e2le on Saturday September 18, 2021 @11:31PM (#28581445)
Ban the prefix instead.
Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by bluedino on Saturday September 18, 2021 @06:48PM (#28580040)
A trillion hosts.deny entries?
Re:Belgian ISP under 250 Gbps DDoS for days on end by nickthemagicman on Sunday September 19, 2021 @01:04PM (#28585918)
How many hackers would it take to compromise a trillion hosts?

the hackers are better than I thought!