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Re:Newsom signs legislation to boost California’s housing su... by teakettle42 on Thursday September 16, 2021 @09:31PM (#28560100)
Is there definable criteria for measuring the success of this policy direction? What are the metrics?

Is there an example of this policy direction working elsewhere?

Is the goal solely improving housing affordability in locations with high-demand?

Is exacerbating the wealth gap of concern? Density is almost always developed as rental units; growing the permanent rental class means eliminating access to the only vehicle for building wealth for middle and low income Americans.

Re:Newsom signs legislation to boost California’s housing su... by aluminum96 on Thursday September 16, 2021 @09:35PM (#28560132)
> growing the permanent rental class means eliminating access to the only vehicle for building wealth

This is a policy choice, and I would argue it's a bad choice. If we strive to make housing cheaper across the board, households will have more money available to save and invest by other means.

In particular, the incentives created by housing as an appreciating investment are awful. Owners who have all their money locked up in home equity are incentivized to oppose new development, creating an artificial housing shortage.

As a counterexample, consider Germany: virtually all households rent, housing stock is plentiful and affordable, and the middle class is still able to save and build wealth.

Re:Newsom signs legislation to boost California’s housing su... by teakettle42 on Thursday September 16, 2021 @09:51PM (#28560282)
Isn't Germany experiencing a housing shortage — and soaring rents — in their major cities?

That aside, I'm not convinced that encouraging home ownership is bad policy. Home ownership is a direct personal investment in your community, a means of securing one's most base human needs. If people are not building equity in their own homes, someone else is — why is that a superior outcome?

Re:Newsom signs legislation to boost California’s housing su... by s17n on Thursday September 16, 2021 @09:56PM (#28560315)
Building wealth via housing isn't about savings, it's about leverage.
Re:Newsom signs legislation to boost California’s housing su... by mensetmanusman on Thursday September 16, 2021 @09:39PM (#28560166)
I wish our wealth building was in the form of production machines that families maintain through investment.
Re:Newsom signs legislation to boost California’s housing su... by zepto on Thursday September 16, 2021 @09:41PM (#28560179)
What do you mean by “ production machines”?
Re:Newsom signs legislation to boost California’s housing su... by dodobirdlord on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:52PM (#28561013)
Presumably investing by buying stock in companies that are economically productive, as opposed to engaging in purely speculative investment like owning land.
Re:Newsom signs legislation to boost California’s housing su... by nitrogen on Friday September 17, 2021 @11:14AM (#28566410)
Probably cottage industry. A machine shop or clothing line in every garage.
Re:Newsom signs legislation to boost California’s housing su... by ajross on Thursday September 16, 2021 @09:42PM (#28560190)
> Density is almost always developed as rental units

I'm all but certain that's not true. Virtually all non-single-family new construction is aimed at condo sales. Rentals are what you do with depreciating units, not stuff you just built.

Re:Newsom signs legislation to boost California’s housing su... by alistairSH on Thursday September 16, 2021 @10:01PM (#28560353)
Anecdotally that’s not true here in DC metro. Local to me, most apartment blocks are luxury rentals ($3000/month for a 2-bed). Then there are large townhomes mixed in the same development for sale in the $800k+ range. And not a lot of condo units being built.
Re:Newsom signs legislation to boost California’s housing su... by jonnycomputer on Thursday September 16, 2021 @09:43PM (#28560203)
If housing becomes affordable in California, I'd call it a big win.

I'd look to Tokyo for an example of where it has worked.