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Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by quantumBerry on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:06PM (#28557600)
>I worked at a startup where the CEO reverted the unlimited PTO because one asshole engineer took 2 months off paid leave and then came back and quit immediately.

The CEO made a dumb bet and lost. You can't be mad when you offer unlimited PTO and people use it.

Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by midev on Thursday September 16, 2021 @09:44PM (#28560210)
> The CEO made a dumb bet and lost. You can't be mad when you offer unlimited PTO and people use it

This is such a dumb take. Unlimited PTO does not mean you take two months off.

I'm tired of everything needing a footnote and qualifications because people like you only understand things in the most superficial sense.

Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by s-lambert on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:14PM (#28560801)
But 2 months off could be a totally reasonable amount? If you worked for 2 years without taking PTO, taking 2 months off to avoid burnout seems like a normal thing to do. Some people prefer to take bigger, longer vacations rather than smaller more frequent ones.
Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by midev on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:18PM (#28560819)
> But 2 months off could be a totally reasonable amount?

Sure. Leave of two months should obviously be coordinated with your leadership, which this person didn't do.

Which makes your comment moot.

Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by quantumBerry on Friday September 17, 2021 @12:23AM (#28561183)
>Sure. Leave of two months should obviously be coordinated with your leadership, which this person didn't do.

How do you know that individual wasn't approved for the 2 months? I missed that part of the story. Do you not believe an employee has the right to resign from a job, or are they a slave for a certain period of time after taking a vacation?

Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by midev on Friday September 17, 2021 @12:48AM (#28561329)
> How do you know that individual wasn't approved for the 2 months? I missed that part of the story.

Context clues: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context_(language_use)

> Do you not believe an employee has the right to resign from a job

Of course. Nobody said any different. Are you confused about the thread you're responding to?

Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by quantumBerry on Friday September 17, 2021 @12:57AM (#28561381)
I appreciate your honesty that it is complete conjecture on your part that the 2 months hadn't been coordinated.
Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by midev on Friday September 17, 2021 @01:13AM (#28561466)
If that's what you think context clues means, I can't help you.
Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by randomswede on Friday September 17, 2021 @02:49AM (#28562076)
By the fact that the two months of PTO didn't result in an immediate "you are fired for not coming to work", I take the position that it was approved PTO, and (thus) coordinated with (some) management. I do not see any context that supports another interpretation.
Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by grepfru_it on Friday September 17, 2021 @08:36AM (#28564725)
As my dad has always told me, you have no idea what agreement the other employee had with the company, so never speculate.
Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by dragonsky67 on Thursday September 16, 2021 @10:32PM (#28560585)
Well what does it mean? the words are pretty plain and clear. I've never worked in a place with a unlimited PTO policy, so I have no idea what it means and would need clarification. Most of us work in technology and understand that in most cases the devil is in the detail.
Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by midev on Thursday September 16, 2021 @11:14PM (#28560802)
Yes, the words are pretty plain and clear. You can take as much time off as you want, within reason. There is no cap.

Need a few days off for a break? Go for it. Want to take a two week vacation a few times per year. Approved!

Think you can take two months off and disappear? Nope. Some people were born without a nuance gene and don't understand this distinction.

Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by quantumBerry on Friday September 17, 2021 @12:18AM (#28561160)
>Think you can take two months off and disappear? Nope.

Apparently you can, because he did, and it worked.

Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by midev on Friday September 17, 2021 @12:32AM (#28561227)
If by "worked" you mean pissed off everyone and ruined your reputation and career, sure!
Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by quantumBerry on Friday September 17, 2021 @12:38AM (#28561261)
If it's your first job, then sure maybe.

I've done something similar, walking off a bad job at the most critical time they needed me. Would you like to know what happened? I used one of my many other references, and within two weeks I had a job for 20% more money making six figures. Your value isn't attached to what some idiot CEO thinks of you.

Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by midev on Friday September 17, 2021 @01:01AM (#28561402)
You made 20% more and broke into six figures. Congrats, you're an average tech employee with baggage. Everyone that remembers you will be a hard no on future interviews.

Congrats I guess.

Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by quantumBerry on Friday September 17, 2021 @01:20AM (#28561508)
Thank you! This was many years ago, and I've held several jobs since then, 1000+ miles away from there now. It has not impacted my career the slightest, but thank you for your concern! I don't have some superiority complex against those making a median wage, so your sarcasm really isn't an insult at all. It's quite a good living, and I don't begrudge those making more.
Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by smsm42 on Sunday September 19, 2021 @03:40AM (#28582463)
It it doesn't mean that, why not say "up to 2 months PTO"? If you say "unlimited" and mean "limited", then yes, it needs a footnote, just as if you said "we're going to pay you $200K per year" but then paid only half and said "what, are you crazy? I'd never pay so much as $200K, surely you know I didn't mean this, do I need a footnote over every tiny thing?" No, not every, only in cases where you say one thing, but mean completely different one.
Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by djbebs on Friday September 17, 2021 @11:25AM (#28566566)
See that word "unlimited"?
Re:Atlassian fired me while I was taking care of my wife who... by edoceo on Thursday September 16, 2021 @05:33PM (#28557954)
Oh, you can be mad. But you shouldn't be a jerk about it.