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Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by post_break on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @03:00PM (#28542964)
Don't forget Apple got caught red handed price fixing ebooks.
Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by aaaaaaaaaaab on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @03:21PM (#28543208)
Don’t forget Apple got caught red handed fixing engineers’ salaries by colluding with Google.
Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by zsmi on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @03:40PM (#28543445)
To be fair, there were a number of defendants in that law suit. And they're probably just the ones that got caught.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...

"The defendants are Adobe, Apple Inc., Google, Intel, Intuit, Pixar, Lucasfilm and eBay, all high-technology companies with a principal place of business in the San Francisco–Silicon Valley area of California."

Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by echelon on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @03:26PM (#28543273)
Call Apple what it is.

An evil, overpowered marketplace.

Anti-stallman, anti-web, anti-computing freedom, anti-engineer, anti-privacy, spy panopticon.

Poser.

Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by justapassenger on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @04:45PM (#28544139)
> Anti-stallman

Personality cult is never a good thing. It's equally not healthy to be obsessed with Stallman as it's with Jobs.

Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by pessimizer on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @06:13PM (#28545086)
Yes, it's believing in things that's a problem, not what in particular you believe in.
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Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by echelon on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @03:32PM (#28543352)
Apple is turning computing and ownership into renting and serfdom. Why don't you see that?

The only reason I'd work for Apple is to send the horrific things they do to my representatives and the Department of Justice. Emails. Meeting notes. Admissions of anticompetitive behavior.

Not a bad idea, but I think I'll have more impact elsewhere.

Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by GiorgioG on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @03:56PM (#28543615)
> Apple is turning computing and ownership into renting and serfdom. Why don't you see that?

Amazon, Google & Microsoft are just as guilty of this with their cloud platforms.

Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by pessimizer on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @06:17PM (#28545120)
"Just as guilty" is the opposite of a defense. You're literally in a thread condemning Apple for conspiring with Google right now. Who are are you attempting to convince of what by saying that Google is "just as guilty?"
Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by zerd on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @07:24PM (#28545770)
Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by tick_tock_tick on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @04:12PM (#28543767)
No, they are not. Apple is going further and using good branding to avoid consumer backlash.
Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by echelon on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @04:11PM (#28543760)
Eh, you kind of get it.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Famgopoly

They all need to be broken up in the areas where they use platform powers to ensnare, absorb, and destroy.

Each of these companies could be decent companies, but they're allowed to abuse their positions and wreak havoc on multiple industries.

Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by mcdoogal on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @04:23PM (#28543900)
Until Apple is my only option for computing, I don’t see how this is happening
Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by moogleii on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @03:29PM (#28543303)
That whole debacle was an interesting, if illegal, counter-attack against Amazon: https://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/apple-claiming-v...

The meat of it: "As Apple prepared to launch the iPad, it offered a deal to the six biggest publishers in the U.S. The publishers could set the retail prices of e-books sold by Apple, up to a cap of $14.99, and they would get seventy per cent of the sale price. But if any other retailer was selling a given e-book at a lower price than the one a publisher had set, Apple could match it."

Contrast that with Amazon which could set the retail price freely "often at or even below the original wholesale price. Amazon didn’t mind losing money on each sale, as long as the strategy helped sell Kindles and expand the e-book market."

Re:Steve Jobs: Let's force Amazon to use our payment system ... by mcphage on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @08:14PM (#28546232)
That definitely worked out best for us. We all win when Amazon is the only significant ebook seller. The justice department cementing Amazon’s business position was a good thing that happened.