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Re:Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England by allturtles on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @12:53PM (#28541475)
The elderly were prioritized in getting vaccinated, and they have a higher baseline death rate. So it's still not clear what it means that the # of non-covid deaths in (1) and (2) is roughly the same.

I'm not disputing that the vaccines are effective at preventing death, but that doesn't mean that we can just point to any stat that looks good and celebrate without considering what it actually means.

Re:Deaths involving Covid-19 by vaccination status, England by jonplackett on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @12:59PM (#28541550)
Wouldn't that just point to the vaccine being even better than the stats suggest (by just looking at ratio of deaths of vaccinated / unvaccinated) since the vaccinated group would be the more vulnerable in the first place.

Also there are more people vaccinated than not now so that would also skew the data to make a direct comparison look worse.