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Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by jonny_eh on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:12PM (#28534410)
Covid is contagious, obesity is not.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by Barrin92 on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @12:57AM (#28535415)
Yes it is, it just spreads memetically rather than a virally.

"the researchers found that obesity spreads through social ties. When an individual gains weight, it dramatically increases the chances that their friends, siblings, and spouses will likewise gain weight. The closer two people are in a social network, the stronger the effect."

Children in families with obese parents are more likely to be obese, which ought to be obvious because they live on the same diets and same behavioural patterns. Overweight friends tend to have other overweight friends, and are naturally more tolerant of it. Pay close attention to social circles and try to figure out what the tolerance towards obesity is within groups of say, thin girls compared overweight ones and how that modulates their behavior.

This is not limited to obesity of course, drug use, smoking in particular behaviour that is addictive essentially spreads through social circles like a disease. Try to model the opioid epidemic (the word is chosen for a reason) like one and you would surely find the exact same patterns. These are not geographically or demographically random processes, they're transmitted within communities.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2007/07/obesity-is-co...

Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by shaklee3 on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @01:03AM (#28535444)
That's an extremely poor comparison on something that spreads from years of social ties to one second from a cough.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by Barrin92 on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @01:21AM (#28535532)
I'm not sure how the rate of spread makes it a bad comparison. the dynamics of contagion are what matters because it determines what interventions make sense.

you can use this pandemic frame to say, eliminate a drug 'super-spreader' cluster and it will have positive effects on a community at large. Likewise, changing the behavior of parents in regards to their diet will have real downstream effects on the health of the entire family.

Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by shard on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:53PM (#28534683)
I would instead say COVID is physically contagious, while obesity is psychologically and socially contagious.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by logicchains on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @12:52AM (#28535392)
No it doesn't. Israel and Singapore both have over 80% eligible vaxed, and the proportion of infectees who are vaxed is similar to the proportion of vaxed in the general population, suggesting vaxed are no less likely to get it. Moreover infection rates are greater after mass vaccination than before.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by shard on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @10:32PM (#28547246)
I assume you are responding to someone else, not sure how your statement is relevant to what I've wrote.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by ixacto on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @11:13PM (#28534823)
Actually I’d disagree that obesity is not contagious. Look at many families they’re all obese all the family members. Could be something too it.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by fuzxi on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:36PM (#28534557)
Getting vaccinated doesn't prevent you from spreading covid.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by dwaltrip on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:57PM (#28534719)
It significantly reduces the chances of spreading it…
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by brendoelfrendo on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:52PM (#28534671)
No, but if everyone was vaccinated we’d be a lot less concerned about spread in the first place.
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by fuzxi on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @11:07PM (#28534787)
Re:Why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? by throwawaylinux on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:51PM (#28534666)
Overweight people put disproportionate strain on the healthcare system.