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Re:iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max by theshrike79 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @02:33PM (#28528859)
Many small steps make one big step. iPhone releases haven't been for the people who get a new one every year for ages.

They are for the ones whose phone is so old that the latest iOS stopped supporting it.

Think about the amazing leap you get from an iPhone 6 to iPhone 13? That's not "iterative", it's damn revolutionary.

Re:iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max by tompazourek on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @03:09PM (#28529484)
I have iPhone 6, and it's fine with iOS 12.5.4 released in June 2021. I'm thinking about upgrading, but the current situation is still fine. The phone still works very well, and I use it a lot. Safari, YouTube, Reddit, podcast apps, maps apps, notes, messaging apps, etc. still work about the same. Photos would have better quality on a newer phone, but overall not a big change for everyday use. These newer displays look nice though.

I'll be forced to update when enough apps (not Apple, but third party) stop working because they no longer support iOS 12. Currently, there are only 7 apps out of over 200 that I have installed that don't support iOS 12. So I have to run an older version of these apps. Eventually there will be many. And the older versions of the apps will eventually stop working as well (if they connect to some web APIs that will be deprecated). This is what forced me to upgrade from iPhone 3GS to iPhone 6 last time.

Re:iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max by glogla on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @02:51PM (#28529187)
I don't know about that.

iPhone 6 had headphone connector, reasonable size and touchid. It had headphones and charger bundled in, for $650 at launch.

iPhone 13 definitely has better camera, display and performance, and it is bit more water resistant and has wireless charging. But it's larger, missing headphone connector, it has faceid (which never works in pandemic world due to masks), has no headphones or charger in the box, and cost $1000 at launch.

So there definitely are improvements (the quality of life from wireless charging, nicer screen and camera) but it comes at almost twice the cost and a lot of stupid choices like faceid. For people not interested in performance and camera, the iPhone 13 can almost seem worse.

Re:iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max by theshrike79 on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @01:58AM (#28535740)
> has no headphones or charger in the box

I've got so fucking many wired Apple headphones and chargers I don't know what to do with them all.

I'm glad they're not bundling them any more. I use an Anker charger and cable anyway.

Re:iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max by xu_ituairo on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @07:48PM (#28533147)
iPhone 13 starts at $699 for the mini and $799 for the non-mini, not $1000.
Re:iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max by Lamad123 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @02:49PM (#28529171)
The only thing I see from iphone 8 to whatever this is, is that ugly notch and owl camera!!
Re:iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max by theshrike79 on Wednesday September 15, 2021 @01:56AM (#28535734)
As someone who moved from an 8 to an XS, you'll actually notice the notch for the first day or so.

After that you just won't care and barely notice it.