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Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by jvanderbot on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @12:39PM (#28527314)
That's not amoral. It's missing a market opportunity, but conflating that with morality is an interesting way of looking at it.

Businesses don't owe you a product (before you pay for it) any more than you owe them loyalty after you pay for something. They will suffer when someone else offers what you want and you leave. That's the point of markets and competition.

Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by scoopertrooper on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @01:45PM (#28528172)
Maybe 'amoral' is a bit strong, but I think there is something wrong with an economic system where producers destroy wealth, rather than distribute all that is produced.

If it's wrong for the government to pay farmers to burn crops during a depression, then it's wrong for a monopoly to disable chip capabilities during a chip shortage.

Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by jvanderbot on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @02:08PM (#28528469)
I think you're framing the supply chain in a very personal (strawman) way.

The problem is just one of "efficiency". The production is not perfectly aligned with where people are willing to spend money. A purely efficient market exists only in theory / textbooks / Adam Smith's Treatise.

The chips that roll off a fab are not done. They aren't "burning crops". Perhaps they are abandoned (not completed) perhaps because they need to recoup or save resources to focus on finishing and shipping the working (full core) products. They aren't driving their trucks of finished products into the ocean.

Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by scoopertrooper on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @06:26PM (#28532336)
> The problem is just one of "efficiency". The production is not perfectly aligned with where people are willing to spend money. A purely efficient market exists only in theory / textbooks / Adam Smith's Treatise.

Destroying wealth is not appropriate the market mechanism to deal with disequilibrium. Producers should either lower the price to meet the market or hold inventory if they anticipate increased future demand. However, the latter may be harder to do in the CPU business because inventory depreciates rapidly.

Intel has hitherto been minimally affected by market pressures because they held an effective monopoly on the CPU market though that is fast changing.

So, there is nothing necessarily "efficient" about what Intel is doing. They're maximising their returns through price discrimination at the expense of allocative efficiency.

> The chips that roll off a fab are not done. They aren't "burning crops". Perhaps they are abandoned (not completed) perhaps because they need to recoup or save resources to focus on finishing and shipping the working (full core) products. They aren't driving their trucks of finished products into the ocean.

That may be true in some cases, but not in others. I'm speaking directly to the case where a component is deliberately modified to reduce its capability for the specific purpose of price discrimination.

Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by munificent on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @02:24PM (#28528684)
> Businesses don't owe you a product (before you pay for it) any more than you owe them loyalty after you pay for something.

This is itself a moral claim. You may choose to base your morals on capitalism, but capitalism itself doesn't force that moral choice.

> That's the point of markets and competition.

And the point of landmines is to blow people's legs off, but the existence of landmines does not morally justify blowing people up. Markets are a technology and our moral framework should determine how we employ technologies and not the other way around.

Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by jvanderbot on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @03:04PM (#28529403)
So, if I had changed to preface with "In today's western society, it is generally accepted that ... ", we'd be on a level playing field? That's reasonable.
Re:Intel is reducing server chip pricing in attempt to stem ... by munificent on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @06:20PM (#28532264)
You could make that claim, but I disagree that it is generally accepted that companies destroying products is a morally good thing.

I don't know anyone in western society who thinks things like planned obsolenscence are to be admired.