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Re:AI Recognises Race in Medical Images by dahfizz on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @09:55AM (#28524835)
I'm not sure how your link applies to this situation. That refers to an interesting way an AI encoded data in an image. The issue here is that this data _exists in the first place_. Whether the AI learned to compress the racial data into an 8x8 picture is besides the point.
Re:AI Recognises Race in Medical Images by ceejayoz on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @10:01AM (#28524935)
The point is “the AI might not be doing what you think it is doing, because it doesn’t actually understand the goal”.
Re:AI Recognises Race in Medical Images by throwaway894345 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @12:20PM (#28527064)
You're misunderstanding the context of the thread. At this point in the thread, we're talking about whether or not there is any biological basis for race, not about the AI example in particular. The premise here is that there is a biological basis--that race is a label applied to a cluster of genetic traits (various facial shape features, skin color, etc) which are almost certainly genetically constructed.
Re:AI Recognises Race in Medical Images by ceejayoz on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @12:26PM (#28527136)
The comment I replied to stated "clearly there must be some biological basis for race, if an AI can determine race from an x-ray".

I'm pointing out that's not necessarily true. First, we have to prove that the AI is determining race from an x-ray. It's effectiveness at doing it via 64 pixels makes me skeptical that it is.

After that, we get into sticky territory determining whether any biological differences we can identify between races are caused by genetics, or environmental/societal factors like disparities in healthcare, diet, neighborhoods built over old SuperFund sites (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal), etc.

Re:AI Recognises Race in Medical Images by throwaway894345 on Tuesday September 14, 2021 @03:35PM (#28529890)
Ah, my mistake.