Re:Researchers successfully potty-train cows
by CobrastanJorji on Monday September 13, 2021 @03:42PM
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Plants are alive, in that they reproduce and react to stimulus, but I don't have any reason to suspect them of awareness, feelings, thoughts, or desires. Everyone's morals here will be different, but I have to eat something, and I'll choose to eat a lettuce over a puppy any day.
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Re:Researchers successfully potty-train cows
by soperj on Monday September 13, 2021 @04:05PM
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> I don't have any reason to suspect them of awareness, feelings, thoughts, or desires.
I don't have any reason to suspect that they don't.
Re:Researchers successfully potty-train cows
by yboris on Monday September 13, 2021 @05:45PM
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Do you suspect rocks have conscious experiences?
With animals there's a clear connection: they have brains and brains is clearly the part that enables us humans to have conscious experiences.
The burden of proof of the claim "plants are conscious" is on you.
Re:Researchers successfully potty-train cows
by soperj on Monday September 13, 2021 @06:07PM
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>brains is clearly the part that enables us humans to have conscious experiences
I didn't claim that plants were conscious, and we have no idea what causes the conscious experience. I personally wouldn't say that all humans actually experience consciousness. So no, no clear connection, and no burden either.