Re:Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer...
by simiones on Monday September 13, 2021 @09:55AM
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I am not a practitioner, so I have no idea if this is actually plausible, but it would seem absurd to me for an experimental, out-of-left-field treatment for Alzheimers, in a <10 person study, could be denied a control group on ethical grounds. There are tens if not hundreds of millions of Alzheimer's patients not receiving this potential treatment already.
Re:Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer...
by lthornberry on Monday September 13, 2021 @10:09AM
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This. There is basically zero chance that an ethics review would see this as a case in which a control group is unethical. I have been through plenty of IRB processes.
Resource constraints are a much more plausible explanation - running the study with a control group would cost twice as much (in time as well as money). This is either a pilot to apply for funding to run a better-controlled trial, or it's just not scientifically serious. Both are very plausible, in my experience.
Re:Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer...
by jinto36 on Monday September 13, 2021 @09:51PM
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Thanks for the perspective, I have only done data analysis after the data is generated, and never have actually had to deal with an IRB directly for the design of a study.
Re:Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer...
by parliowl on Monday September 13, 2021 @12:08PM
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I don’t want to speculate about why they designed their study this way or that way, because who knows.
I do feel confident in saying that Scientifically, the human data in this study are largely uninformative.
Re:Hyperbaric oxygen therapy reverses hallmarks of Alzheimer...
by reacweb on Monday September 13, 2021 @12:51PM
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Yes control group is very important. This link might interest you https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC300808/?fbclid=...
I'm a little surprised they wouldn't have done a larger secondary trial before publishing, the impact would have been much greater if the effect was still observed in a larger group, even if they still did not have a control group- or perhaps had an alternative treatment schedule (shorter exposure times- is treatment duration correlated with degree of improvement? Then you have less of a moral dilemma of denying participants of a useful treatment while still getting some data that would indicate the treatment itself actually does something).
(working on a PhD in genetics)