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Re:17B life years could be saved if air pollution was reduce... by gunfighthacksaw on Sunday September 12, 2021 @04:54PM (#28504820)
>EVs affordable enough for the poor will definitely be required here

Here in SW Ontario there are countless people riding those electric scooters or ebikes in the summertime. I’ve even seen old barflies hop on after drinking a pitcher and head on to the next spot. I’m sure the Bay Area has more clement weather year-round than here.

Re:17B life years could be saved if air pollution was reduce... by b9a2cab5 on Sunday September 12, 2021 @05:02PM (#28504903)
I commuted to/from a train on an electric scooter. Not only are they just not viable for any trips longer than 3-4 miles, you can't go up any sort of incline either. Mine was "overclocked" to enable up to 500w of power and I'm 180lbs, but it wouldn't be able to climb even a 10 degree incline at over walking speed. And at least the consumer ones you can find on Amazon are not robust enough to withstand even 6 months of daily use before the tire wears out, battery terminals corrode, and screws start falling out.
Re:17B life years could be saved if air pollution was reduce... by ClumsyPilot on Sunday September 12, 2021 @05:13PM (#28505011)
I've used a normal bike and an e-bike and didn't have such issues.
Re:17B life years could be saved if air pollution was reduce... by b9a2cab5 on Sunday September 12, 2021 @05:21PM (#28505093)
$2k e-bikes are probably more robust than the $600 scooter I was riding and would definitely be my choice next time around. For anyone interested in e-scootering though, avoid the Segway ES series like hell and make sure you do your research.