'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded Iraq?'

Re:'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded... by dragonwriter on Saturday September 11, 2021 @10:56PM (#28498239)

> was when Fox News and to a lesser degree MSNBC asserted themselves as the purveyors of journalism for one's ideology of choice

No, it wasn't; Fox had done that before, and and MSNBC, to the extent it eventually did, didn't until much later (9/11 occurred during, and didn't end, the period where MSNBC and CNN were kinda trying to compete with Fox in the same ideological targeting even though CNN was consistently painted as the Left network by the Right, and MSNBC didn't acquire a fairly consistent “left”, or at least Democratic, editorial position until into Bush’s second term, as a gradual evolution from a mix of different editorial positions.

> and when political discourse on the internet started to really sour.

As someone who was online pretty continuously since when “political discourse on the internet” met Usenet, the idea that it started to sour only after 9/11 is silly. More people started interacting online around that time, but that was more driven by easy blogging platforms becoming available and internet access becoming more ubiquitous than 9/11 or any connected political actions.

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Re:'The world 9/11 created: What if the U.S. had not invaded... by Apocryphon on Saturday September 11, 2021 @11:30PM (#28498398)

Perhaps it's my own observer bias of growing up in that era, with San Francisco's KGO 810 and Air America on one dial, and Michael Savage on KNEW 910 on another, and flipping through Free Republic/Pajamas Media and Democratic Underground/DailyKos online, but I think I might have preprogrammed myself to think of the U.S. as an irreconcilable mess of feuding echo chambers.

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