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Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by jedberg on Thursday August 04, 2011 @04:40PM (#2847664)
To assuage folks who don't understand technology and will assume they are guilty until they "make big changes".
Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by rsingel on Thursday August 04, 2011 @06:56PM (#2848148)
Jeremy, sorry but you are mistaken.

The report -- http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1898390 -- was technically correct. In fact, it's KISSmetrics that's distorting what the report said.

Shah writes "Mr. Soltani’s paper speculates that KISSmetrics tracks customers across websites based on his observation of a shared identifier on different customer websites."

Soltani's paper and my story about it said nothing of the sort.

Both point out that KISSmetrics technology gives a user the same unique ID on different sites, a technological choice that would allow its clients to compare their databases -- independent of KISSmetrics -- and share data about users.

I find the recent blog post odd, because on Friday, Shah told me it was accurate and that the techniques were legal.

Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by jforman on Thursday August 04, 2011 @04:48PM (#2847693)
I understand technology, and I'm pretty skeezed out by their use of Etags...

Also, if they truly think they're innocent, why wouldn't they just educate their userbase? Seems odd to make such drastic architectural changes just because of a perceptual problem.

Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by jedberg on Thursday August 04, 2011 @05:45PM (#2847940)
Ah, but it is all about perception. The same thing happened at reddit a few times.

The mob decided someone was guilty, we investigated, found absolutely no wrongdoing. Told the community, they didn't care. They would only be happy with swift, visible action.

Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by jforman on Thursday August 04, 2011 @06:01PM (#2847989)
Comparing the relatively thoughtful discussion on this topic among the web development community to the reddit mob is not particularly fair or accurate.
Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by jedberg on Thursday August 04, 2011 @06:10PM (#2848019)
I would have to say you're naive for thinking the two are much different.

Any group, no matter how civil and educated, can dislove pretty quickly into mob mentality.

Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by jforman on Thursday August 04, 2011 @06:28PM (#2848065)
Your cynicism is not well borne out on this message board.
Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by ericd on Thursday August 04, 2011 @07:03PM (#2848171)
This board is a very rare exception on the internet, and even it descends into its own form of lynch mobbery (with a more elevated tone than most lynch mobs).
Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by dangrossman on Thursday August 04, 2011 @05:06PM (#2847767)
Their userbase is not who's suing them.
Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by danielharan on Thursday August 04, 2011 @05:12PM (#2847803)
> why wouldn't they just educate their userbase? <

If you were competing against better funded companies - one of which may be behind these lawsuits (hey, this is business) - how much time would you spend educating? Wouldn't you rather just be selling and making money?

Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by gyardley on Thursday August 04, 2011 @05:24PM (#2847856)
No need for conspiracy theories - other companies have nothing to do with it.

One law firm in particular is behind this lawsuit. This type of thing is their bread and butter.

Re:Official KISSmetrics Response to Data Collection Practices by ericd on Thursday August 04, 2011 @07:04PM (#2848176)
Which one?