Re:The web is swallowing the desktop whole (2017)
by Chris2048 on Thursday September 09, 2021 @01:06PM
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> No app stores, no install/uninstall process, no access to system internals
the problem with app-stores is lock-in, but there's nothing wrong with repos in general e.g. linux package repositories.
What we really are missing is good sandboxes. We got there in browser/js-land, but it was hard progress; the constant attacks on web architecture and the value in overcoming it for e.g. online banking and purchase incentivised the effort to provide a solution.
If we had properly isolated executions environments, with whatever permissions model that implies, then that could be the basis of proper remote/auth-less execution; but even VMs/containers can't meet that guarantee.
Then we wouldn't need so much review process around app, or locked-down stores; installs could be pre-emptive and automatic, and system calls managed.
I suppose than rather make just a single one-off language, it would make more sense as a abstract/virtual-machine on which bytecode is executed, as the basis for other, proper language (ala the JVM).
the problem with app-stores is lock-in, but there's nothing wrong with repos in general e.g. linux package repositories.
What we really are missing is good sandboxes. We got there in browser/js-land, but it was hard progress; the constant attacks on web architecture and the value in overcoming it for e.g. online banking and purchase incentivised the effort to provide a solution.
If we had properly isolated executions environments, with whatever permissions model that implies, then that could be the basis of proper remote/auth-less execution; but even VMs/containers can't meet that guarantee.
Then we wouldn't need so much review process around app, or locked-down stores; installs could be pre-emptive and automatic, and system calls managed.
I suppose than rather make just a single one-off language, it would make more sense as a abstract/virtual-machine on which bytecode is executed, as the basis for other, proper language (ala the JVM).