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Re:“Nihilism is OK” is not OK by 0-_-0 on Thursday September 09, 2021 @10:02AM (#28469784)
Would you prefer to not have been born in the first place?

I'll have enough children to sustain humanity and keep consciousness in the universe, having 2.1 children still means a potentially infinite line of descendants, so no reason to have 12. 12 would decrease the average well-being, while having none would decrease it as well.

Also, I would be interested what you think the crucial difference is between not continuing to live and not being born.

Re:“Nihilism is OK” is not OK by kongin on Thursday September 09, 2021 @11:57AM (#28471116)
>Also, I would be interested what you think the crucial difference is between not continuing to live and not being born.

It is the difference between killing two children and deciding to not have 10 extra ones.

Re:“Nihilism is OK” is not OK by 0-_-0 on Thursday September 09, 2021 @01:30PM (#28472268)
That makes no sense, since children want to live, so you can't apply the logic to children, only to yourself.

So I ask you again, would you prefer not to have been born? And if yes, what's your argument for continuing your own life?

Re:“Nihilism is OK” is not OK by kongin on Thursday September 09, 2021 @07:02PM (#28475725)
People that don't exist have no wants.

People that exist have wants.

I exist, yet the dozen other children my parents could have had don't. You can ask them if they want to have been born, but they don't have an opinion on the matter.

Which part of that do you have trouble with?

Re:“Nihilism is OK” is not OK by 0-_-0 on Friday September 10, 2021 @04:17AM (#28478977)
If they will have wants once they are born, bringing them to the world is justified. Your reasoning makes no sense to me.
Re:“Nihilism is OK” is not OK by kongin on Friday September 10, 2021 @06:23AM (#28479642)
Then why aren't you bringing in as many children into the world as you can? The average couple can have 12 children in their reproductive lives. Are you on track to reach that goal?
Re:“Nihilism is OK” is not OK by 0-_-0 on Friday September 10, 2021 @06:31AM (#28479676)
It was you who said that the important distinction is desire to live, I showed where that reasoning leads, and you agreed that it's nonsense. I have nothing more to say.
Re:“Nihilism is OK” is not OK by kongin on Friday September 10, 2021 @08:21AM (#28480492)
No, I said the major difference is existence. Destroying something that exists is different to not making it in the first place.