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Re:The code that controls our money by jrochkind1 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @09:41PM (#28465253)
> It changed who could write it, too. COBOL democratized coding; companies could take everyday people and train them to be useful COBOL programmers in a few months, and to become experts in a year or two. This was crucial given that companies desperately needed more warm bodies to write software.

> “You could pick people up out of the street,” says Jon Pyke, a British coder who learned COBOL back in the 1960s, “and basically and teach them how to do it.”

Well then. This does seem to suggest a solution...

Honestly, this article kind of makes me want to learn COBOL. In my fantasy, the employers desperation somehow makes it a low-stress job, like they know they don't have time for BS, they have to prioritize the most important things and just let you do your job. And they'd be so grateful.

Re:The code that controls our money by hackcasual on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:08PM (#28465415)
If COBOL were that effective, you'd see derivatives of it in modern day usage. The COBOL misunderstanding is that the hard part of computer programming is the grammar we use.
Re:The code that controls our money by IncRnd on Thursday September 09, 2021 @12:30AM (#28466202)
COBOL must be effective, since it is used to great effect in these mission critical systems.
Re:The code that controls our money by perl4ever on Thursday September 09, 2021 @12:10AM (#28466111)
I never had much interest in COBOL, but I really liked Hypertalk's pseudo-english code and sometimes wish it had more influence.
Re:The code that controls our money by Eliezer on Thursday September 09, 2021 @02:21AM (#28466889)
I learned to program in hypertalk as a kid, and I am so glad that it never took off.
Re:The code that controls our money by neonate on Thursday September 09, 2021 @02:14PM (#28472806)
Why are you glad that it never took off? That's the opposite of what we usually hear from former Hypercard users...
Re:The code that controls our money by perl4ever on Thursday September 09, 2021 @08:12PM (#28476271)
I mean, it did take off, it just petered out after Jobs returned to Apple.

"HyperCard was created by Bill Atkinson following an LSD trip."

"HyperCard had a significant impact on the web as it inspired the creation of both HTTP (through its influence on Tim Berners-Lee's colleague Robert Cailliau), and JavaScript (whose creator, Brendan Eich, was inspired by HyperTalk)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard

Re:The code that controls our money by civilized on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:16PM (#28465480)
> And they'd be so grateful.

Or they'd be a bunch of entitled a-holes and constantly try to manipulate you to extract as much value as possible. As finance execs do.

Re:The code that controls our money by Waterluvian on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:23PM (#28465512)
“Hey cost centre, get back to work.”
Re:The code that controls our money by jrochkind1 on Thursday September 09, 2021 @11:28AM (#28470753)
i said it was a fantasy!

But yeah, to have any chance at all, you have to wait until it's really a crisis for them (that can't be blamed on you becuase you aren't there yet), like what might happen in 10 years or so from now, and then show up as a knight in shining armor to rescue them.

but yeah, just a fantasy ha.

Re:The code that controls our money by civilized on Thursday September 09, 2021 @11:39AM (#28470878)
I agree, it's nice to think that business types might realize they should treat you nicely if their business literally depends on it.
Re:The code that controls our money by perl4ever on Thursday September 09, 2021 @12:09AM (#28466107)
>This does seem to suggest a solution...

Yeah, some already figured out, if you do that, you don't need people from high wage countries.