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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by spoonjim on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:37AM (#28457684)
That security isn’t necessarily to stop terrorism. It’s also to stop people from bringing in weapons and then using them in drunken brawls.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by spamizbad on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:45AM (#28457799)
Most airline passengers would trade dry flights for pre-9/11 security screenings.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by rootusrootus on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:23AM (#28458450)
Instantly. Where do I sign?
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:00PM (#28458991)
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/global-...

https://www.tsa.gov/precheck

https://www.clearme.com/

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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by rootusrootus on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:31PM (#28459470)
I have global entry & precheck (ironically, global entry is often slower than just using their app when you arrive). It's nice, for sure, but it's not pre-9/11 security. It's close, I guess, for just the traveller. But I miss the days when family could come to the gate. Maybe airports are too busy for that anyway, now, but I can dream.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:46PM (#28459665)
> But I miss the days when family could come to the gate. Maybe airports are too busy for that anyway, now, but I can dream.

I kinda miss it too, and it's a bit of a shock seeing it happen in old movies now, but I already struggle to find seating at the gate. Even if the security concerns went away entirely in a magical world, I'd bet this restriction would stay.

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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by spoonjim on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:52AM (#28457929)
I’m talking about college football games.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by jaywalk on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:56AM (#28458934)
Most airline passengers can already trade $85 every five years for pre-9/11 security screenings. They simply choose not to.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by spamizbad on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:27PM (#28459411)
it gets expensive and annoying if you're traveling with your family.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by rootusrootus on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:34PM (#28459499)
Most of the time (100% for me so far) you just have to have pre-check for whomever is buying the tickets. As long as they're all on the same reservation ID, the pre-check will get applied to the entire group. That's how I got my first taste of pre-check, when my sister-in-law bought tickets for our entire family. I ended up buying it for myself, and now my wife & kids get the stamp as well when we're traveling together.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by jaywalk on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:42PM (#28459612)
They'll tell you it's not guaranteed (and it's technically not even guaranteed that you'll get PreCheck even if you've got PreCheck yourself) but I've also had a 100% success rate with buying tickets and having PreCheck applied to all of them.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by spamizbad on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @02:40PM (#28461337)
Oh nice. I did not know that!
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:43AM (#28457766)
That is amazing reasoning. Assuming drunken brawls were a problem, instead of banning alcohol, the solution was the current TSA protocol.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by Grazester on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:54AM (#28457964)
Too much money in alcohol to ban it. Due to the behaviour of people on planes now, some airline have temporarily stopped serving it but passengers could still get it at a bar at the airport or buy a bottle of alcohol at a duty free store and drink themselves stupid before boarding the plane.

I dont think they can easily ban that.

edit:// OP clarified this was meant for sports games.

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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by spoonjim on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:52AM (#28457920)
Alcohol makes money, outside weapons don’t. If they could get away with selling you knives in the stadium they probably would.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by irrational on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:50AM (#28457892)
But, that wasn’t even a problem pre-2001. Do you not remember what things were like pre 9/11?
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by sureglymop on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:59AM (#28458054)
I think what he's mentioning has nothing to do with 9/11 though, right? He's talking about football hooligans. I only know that there are such scenes in soccer here in Europe and it can get pretty rough when they clash.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by lexapro on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:14AM (#28458304)
Not wearing a seat belt was also not a problem pre-1984.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by irrational on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:18AM (#28458365)
Tell me about it. I got to lay on top of the families suitcases in the back of the station wagon on road trips. It’s so much easier to sleep like that.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by lexapro on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:24AM (#28458469)
Yes, until you die in an accident that you could have survived with a seat belt.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by irrational on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @02:14PM (#28461000)
Which is exactly why my everyone in my car wears their seat belts. But that doesn't change the fact that it was easier to sleep when laying down in the back of the station wagon.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by duxup on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:58AM (#28458031)
>using them in drunken brawls.

That's not a thing at games I've been to.

Lots of drunken folks, but fights are exceptionally rare.

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