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Re:IBM mainframe beats other platforms for cost and performance by 300bps on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:28AM (#28457552)
The article's price tag of $2.3 MM for 12 HP Servers with 24 cores per server and 166 GB of RAM each is ridiculous.

We just paid just under $50k per server for on-prem physical servers that have 144 cores per server and 1.5 TB of RAM each.

For 12 of them it would be less than $600k and you'd get a total of 1,728 cores and 18 TB of RAM to compare against the mainframe's 30 cores and 2 TB of RAM for over 4x the cost!

Re:IBM mainframe beats other platforms for cost and performance by m4rtink on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @01:25PM (#28460274)
4x the cost is actually not bad for the massive redundancy, hotswap-everything, boatloads of IO, insane build quality and crtitical legacy software support a mainframe gives you!
Re:IBM mainframe beats other platforms for cost and performance by brianwawok on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @01:45PM (#28460560)
4x the cost for 5-10% of the performance? Yes, that is terrible.
Re:IBM mainframe beats other platforms for cost and performance by vntok on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @04:25PM (#28462575)
There are many other parameters to consider than raw perf.
Re:IBM mainframe beats other platforms for cost and performance by DaiPlusPlus on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:36PM (#28464371)
Qualitative ones, yes.

Apple’s Macintosh made waves with its cheeky hello world demo: “Never trust a computer you can’t lift” (…and defenestrate).

Similarly, with an IBM big iron box, if something goes wrong, I sure hope the 6-figure support contract gets it fixed - probably within a few hours if you’re in Manhattan or the SF Bay, but what about elsewhere? Whereas with commodity HP/Dell/Supermicro pizzaboxes in a HA configuration I don’t need to worry about needing a same-day fix for hardware issues - I could put things off for months, even - and probably do it myself and spend the support contract money on a Plaid Model S and have money left-over for a Mac Pro with XDR display (with the cool stand!).

I know IBM’s srsbsns machines have their own redundancies - including being able to hot-swap literally everything, it still feels like open alternatives are overall better in the long-run.

Re:IBM mainframe beats other platforms for cost and performance by tyingq on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:34AM (#28458621)
Using list pricing comparisons of course favors the mainframe in this comparison. Since commodity hardware is sold at a fraction of list price and mainframes are not.
Re:IBM mainframe beats other platforms for cost and performance by throwaway98797 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:17AM (#28458351)
Nobody gets fired for buying IBM.
Re:IBM mainframe beats other platforms for cost and performance by matmatmatmat on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:34PM (#28459501)
Well, maybe in the past.
Re:IBM mainframe beats other platforms for cost and performance by abacadaba on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:54PM (#28459777)
Would be kinda cool to be able to say you got fired for buying IBM though.
Re:IBM mainframe beats other platforms for cost and performance by nix23 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @03:12PM (#28461711)
Or i got sued for buying Oracle...by Oracle ;)