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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by ctrlp on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:18AM (#28457378)
Are you suggesting that people who disagree on masking children are radicals comparable to jihadi terrorists?
Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:22AM (#28457434)
I am suggesting you can find plenty of "crazy, extremely radicalized people" in your local community in fairly short order.
Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by aww_dang on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:29AM (#28457559)
I initially thought he was claiming the inverse, that mask proponents were extremists. From the perspective of 2019, that wouldn't be an unreasonable assumption, but here we are. Today people are advocating using the force of the state, in other words violence against those who do not share their views on mask mandates.
Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by stouset on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:45AM (#28457805)
Can we kindly stop using hyperbole like “using the force of the state, in other words violence” as an argument against literally any governmental policy ever?

In this same fantasy universe jack-booted government thugs are beating up people who don’t wear seat belts or who mislabel the nutritional contents on a package of cheese, except that’s just not what ever actually happens in the real world. These kinds of laws can be appropriate when they make society better for us all.

To that point, anti-maskers have almost certainly killed more Americans at this point than terrorists could ever have hoped to. You might consider that when attempting to understand why people are seemingly so hard-pressed to get laws requiring their countrymen (and women) to do the literal bare minimum to protect the lives of their neighbors.

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by Mandatum on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:40PM (#28464397)
I think we have to be careful because those laws can be wielded by dickheads. See: every abuse of power.

That's a fallacy in itself, however I think there's definitely some merit to both sides here.

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by aww_dang on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:00AM (#28458073)
There's a distinction between a voluntary practice and a compulsory practice. The distinction centers around individuals being compelled by violence. The kind thing to do would be to minimize our use of compulsion as much as pragmatically possible.

>Can we kindly stop using hyperbole... anti-maskers have almost certainly killed more Americans

Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by stouset on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:09AM (#28458205)
As much as I wish it was, that last sentence is sadly not hyperbole.
Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by ctrlp on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:15AM (#28458318)
Exhibit A: Australia Exhibit B: Canada Exhibit C: New Zealand
Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by amanaplanacanal on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:09AM (#28458220)
Well sure. Plenty of people are willing to invoke the force of the state over pants mandates and shirt mandates too. Masks aren’t really any different.