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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by monkeynotes on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:12AM (#28457284)
To me this sounds like a risk for service cart/flight attendant/exiting pilot being overcome and entry gained to the cockpit. Even better a hijacker knows exactly when the opportunity arises as the service cart will be moved into place indicating the dance is about to start.

Furthermore, what's to stop suicide pilot murdering co-pilot behind a locked door?

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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by refactor_master on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:21AM (#28457418)
> Furthermore, what's to stop suicide pilot murdering co-pilot behind a locked door?

What’s to stop anyone from murdering anyone anywhere?

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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by monkeynotes on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:39AM (#28457713)
My point is that if a pilot is determined to murder suicide a whole plane because he's suicidal there is little you can do realistically.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by ilammy on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @11:09AM (#28458208)
That might be true, but there is a difference in causing the deaths of passengers somewhere behind the closed doors by crashing the plane — and dealing with flesh and bone co-pilot right here and now.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by weswpg on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:23AM (#28457459)
> Aviation authorities swiftly implemented new regulations that required two authorized personnel in the cockpit at all times, but by 2017, Germanwings and other German airlines had dropped the rule.

happy?

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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by mgoetzke on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:21AM (#28457425)
Nothing is ever safe though. One can put up obstacles, potentially slow it down to make it less likely though.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by monkeynotes on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:50AM (#28457898)
But a service cart and flight attendant seems like an entirely ineffective obstacle so what's the point? I think I don't know enough about how this "dance" works to comment, so maybe I'll just shut up :)
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