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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by moss2 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:08AM (#28457222)
Wishful thinking. Even if passengers assumed there's not path to survive other than fight -- and you're not in a position to say that they assume this -- most people will not do anything about the hijack anyway.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by monkeynotes on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:17AM (#28457346)
It doesn't take 'most' passengers to overpower some people. All it takes is one hero to move and others will pile on, just one person to break the bystander effect. This is scientifically proven with crowd modelling.
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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:18AM (#28457369)
> most people will not do anything about the hijack anyway

You don't need most.

Flight 93 demonstrates that the "sit down and be quiet while the hostage negotiators work" approach is dead for a while.

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Re:20 years after 9/11: Will we ever stop taking our shoes o... by jcranmer on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:26AM (#28457504)
Flight 93 resulted in a passenger revolt that prevented the plane from reaching its intended target.

The underwear bomber was tackled and subdued by fellow passengers.

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