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Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by maydup-nem on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @02:40AM (#28453832)
Innovative? I have been using qutebrowser for a while, and don't see the appeal of this. I just press a binding, start typing the name of the tab (fuzzy), get the list of matches, choose and there I am. As a basic example among many. Nyxt is just as powerful, if not more.

If you like visual layouts like the one offered then OK, but not me, I think it's distracting and unnecessary.

BTW the headline is blown af

Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by uxcolumbo on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:20AM (#28455506)
Just because it's not useful or innovative to you, doesn't mean it isn't to others.

It's always good to have more players in this game and to me what they are trying to do seems more approachable than the examples you showed.

Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by hnlmorg on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @08:50AM (#28456246)
> It's always good to have more players in this game

I agree with your overall points but this but stood out to me because it's not clear if Bonsai uses its own rendering engine of it is just another reskin of Blink / Chromium. What we really need is more competition with browsers which use their own rendering engines. Or at the very least, more browsers using Gecko (Firefox). If this is another Chromium-based browser then it's still definitely good to see some new ideas in UI but we don't really see much other benefit having more players in the game.

What worries me the most is that this is closed source but presented as if it is open source. Their binaries are stored on Github but there's literally nothing in the repo aside a README (https://github.com/hyferg/bonsai-browser-public). This is of particular concern given the sensitive content that people use browsers for these days (banking, shopping, research on potentially sensitive topics, etc). It would be trivial for a malicious browser to do some real damage to people and there's no way to prove this browser's intentions are sincere given how little information (ie "none") is published about its developers or even the code.

Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by uxcolumbo on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:56PM (#28464517)
Yes - agree with you, more players in the Browser engine space would be good.

I'm mainly using Firefox, but it's really becoming a resource hog and making my laptop fan spin more violently. I have a lot of tabs open.

But innovation in how to manage lots of tabs is welcome and this is what these guys seem to address too.

Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by hyferg on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @09:36AM (#28456735)
I'll edit the readme of that repo to make it more clear. We're distributing the browser off of github so we don't have to pay for download bandwidth and because it integrates with our CI.

Our website got 1TB of traffic yesterday (which it turns out I have to pay for) and thats without hosting the binary on our site!

Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by hnlmorg on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:58AM (#28458028)
Your website is a static page. You should put that behind CloudFlare (or similar) and get them to handle the traffic for you.
Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by hyferg on Friday September 10, 2021 @01:46PM (#28484900)
We're hosting 15mb of video files on that landing page. Netlify says we've had 2.2 TB of transfer out but dividing those numbers gives many more uniques than we've seen in the landing page analytics :/
Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by hyferg on Saturday September 11, 2021 @12:49PM (#28493450)
If anyone's interested, it is likely that the missing traffic is coming from people with blocker scripts that prevent analytics. I've moved the media files from the landing page over to a S3 bucket behind Cloudflare as suggested.
Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by maydup-nem on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:15AM (#28457321)
> not useful or innovative to you,

the message wasn't about me or you, it was about browser space

Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by Existenceblinks on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @09:26AM (#28456612)
> I think it's distracting

I'm confused why the thread got so much upvotes, and a lot of comments made me more confused. Not trying to be rude, but I don't really understand the usefulness ..

Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by davidatbu on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @06:25AM (#28455212)
I'm an avid qutebrowser user too! Thanks for introducing me to Nyxt. I'm curious, why are you using qutebrowser if Nyxt is _at least_ as powerful as QB?
Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by maydup-nem on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @08:56AM (#28456308)
Nyxt is more extensible due to CL, which I like. However qutebrowser is working just fine for me so far and I didn't like how some things worked out of the box in Nyxt, and was too lazy to customize them.
Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by davidatbu on Friday September 10, 2021 @03:49PM (#28486169)
Got it. Thanks.
Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by mavhc on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:24AM (#28455529)
Is that the same as ctrl-shift-a in Chrome?
Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by maydup-nem on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @09:05AM (#28456381)
Can't say, not using Chrome, but I wouldn't be surprised. It does seem like a no brainer to have in a browser, along with tab groups (which qutebrowser currently seems to lack).
Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by vidarh on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @02:13PM (#28460987)
You can also just search tabs directly in the address bar (though then intermingled with other matches)
Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by culopatin on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:01AM (#28455409)
Not sure if you’re truly always that pedantic or if you are some sort of troll. Good for you that you enjoy something different, but I doubt anyone thinks “I think this is innovative, but let me check with maydup first because he knows it all”.
Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by maydup-nem on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @09:00AM (#28456340)
> Not sure if you’re truly always that pedantic or if you are some sort of troll

wat? I responded to this:

> this is the most innovative thing in the browser space for a long while

I simply mentioned how there have been some other browsers for a while that have an equivalent feature set, therefore this isn't so innovative.

The fucking snowflakes. Where every opinion must be cherished and never argued with.

Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by culopatin on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @09:19AM (#28456548)
I think you confused what I mean. I was asking if you were always pedantic. I said nothing about not starting a debate. It’s the way you communicate, not what you communicate.

Your tone makes it seem like you just want to toot your own horn and not like you want to actually have a conversation about the topic.

Maybe you could’ve said “there is this other application that I’ve been using that’s been out for a while and has innovated the browser in similar ways, check it out”

Do whatever you want, I just think you might promote healthier conversations if you don’t come across as pedantic. Unless you’re a troll or proud of your tone, either way, thanks for your time.

Re:Show HN: Web browser to help programmers think clearly by maydup-nem on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:14AM (#28457316)
Well, when something is presented as innovative, while it's really not (given the context of "browser space"), and you say so, how is it pedantry? There was an overenthusiastic false statement, and I responded to it accordingly, that's all.