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Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by inglor_cz on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @08:02AM (#28443627)
I wonder how many people who throw accusations of "closet X" and "stealth Y" so easily are, in fact, themselves closet X and stealth Y and generalize about other people based on their own carefully hidden prejudices.
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Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by notSupplied on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @02:34PM (#28461264)
Reminds me of Conflict vs Mistake theory. Mistake theorists worry about whether an idea is true. Conflict theorists worry about whether an idea is useful their enemies.

Shifting the argument to "bad faith", "closet X", "stealth Y" is exactly that: It says nothing about whether something true, only that "it helps the bad guys."

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Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by baybal2 on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @08:19AM (#28443765)
I'm always public about my convictions, sometime too public according to the moderators of HN.
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Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by inglor_cz on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @08:35AM (#28443916)
Well, to be honest, claiming that people who say A do in fact mean B, is more of an attempt at mind reading of others than just another conviction.

This is frowned upon, because there is no bottom to this race downwards. Anyone can accuse anyone else of being a horrible, rotten human being who just puts up a tolerable facade.

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Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by imbnwa on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @10:18AM (#28445176)
> Anyone can accuse anyone else of being a horrible, rotten human being who just puts up a tolerable facade.

You say this as if human beings are entirely unfamiliar with the use of facades in everyday life (need I mention most women's familarity with "the nice guy"), more so in those domains where power and position are at stake.

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Re:Can progressives be convinced that genetics matters? by inglor_cz on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @02:26PM (#28448112)
No, I wanted to say that we should apply some threshold of evidence before making accusations like this, and we shouldn't apply them onto large groups of people.
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