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Re:Intel’s Turnaround and the Future of Chipmaking by chithanh on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:40AM (#28442062)
> AFAIK Intel 10nm approximately equals TSMC 7nm.

I don't think so, TSMC 7nm is ahead in many ways. For example, Intel 10nm power efficiency is much worse.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-epyc-journey-continues-to-mi...

Intel 10nm is maybe more comparable with Samsung 8nm.

Re:Intel’s Turnaround and the Future of Chipmaking by Traster on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @09:41AM (#28444714)
TSMC 7nm = Intel 10nm is a crazy old trope that dates back to before everyone realised that Intel couldn't deliver 10nm. I don't know why people keep repeating it.
Re:Intel’s Turnaround and the Future of Chipmaking by mensetmanusman on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @04:08PM (#28449234)
Any node after they stopped measuring gate dimensions is a trope.

We need a better metric, a marketing term doesn’t work.

Re:Intel’s Turnaround and the Future of Chipmaking by gruez on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @10:20AM (#28445194)
>TSMC 7nm is ahead in many ways. For example, Intel 10nm power efficiency is much worse.

Is this based on the lithography process, or because of the uarch?

The 7nm = 10nm was from https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/File:7nm_densities.svg, which looked at the density. Based comparison tables of lithography processes, it doesn't even look like power is something that they compare (eg. https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/7_nm_lithography_process)

Re:Intel’s Turnaround and the Future of Chipmaking by sct202 on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @10:40AM (#28445437)
In your second link there's Power @ iso-speed comparisons within TSMC's nodes and TSMC has 3 revisions of their N7 with 3 different power usages. Presumably, Intel can do similar things within their generations too.