Re:Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish boo...
by tehjoker on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:35PM
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Isn't this what the US and UK did to Julian Assuage?
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Re:Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish boo...
by dbsmith83 on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:58PM
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Perhaps, but that's off-topic what aboutism. What does that have to do with the story?
Re:Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish boo...
by chc on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @02:23AM
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I think it is relevant here because it provides evidence on whether other countries are likely to put their foot down against China over things like this.
Re:Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish boo...
by dbsmith83 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:04AM
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The Assange situation is very different than this one on many levels. I can't see much similarity. It came across as a poor attempt to defend the CCP with the old "America is no better" trope
Re:Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish boo...
by Chris2048 on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @07:53AM
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whataboutism usually refers to irrelevant things. Given Assange is recent (and ongoing) why is it not relevant?
Re:Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish boo...
by dbsmith83 on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @11:58PM
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And relevant usually refers to something that relates to the topic. Again, I ask, what does it have to do with the story?
Re:Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish boo...
by Chris2048 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @01:31AM
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Its a comparison to us/uk relations, that relates to the topic. It literally refers to the story as "this".
Re:Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish boo...
by dbsmith83 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @07:53AM
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"But what about the US/UK!? They do it too!"
Combined with the fact that the Assange situation is not at all similar, I don't see it as relevant.
Re:Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish boo...
by Chris2048 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:43AM
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Different situation, same behaviour - the trampling of individuals for political gain.
BTW, even the historical example of Russian "and you lynch blacks" to the US in response to human-right criticism is relevant, as exemplified by the export of BLM as a general civil rights movement. The US/UK should still be able to criticise China, but without pretending to be a laudable moral example.
Re:Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish boo...
by dbsmith83 on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @12:50PM
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Ah then this is where our difference of opinion is. I can see now why you think it's relevant. For me, I always viewed the Russian responses to criticism as diversionary in nature, meant to just essentially say "Well you're not perfect either!". To me, that is just a diversionary tactic to disregard the subject at hand
Re:Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish boo...
by mrtranscendence on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @09:59AM
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You mean the US and UK disappeared one of Julian Assange's closest relatives, kept them detained for four years, and trotted them out as blackmail to keep him silent? It doesn't seem the same to me.