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Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by void_mint on Monday September 06, 2021 @10:56PM (#28440408)
> CEOs are allowed to publicly state their opinion if it is in favor of left leaning positions certifications but not conservative leaning positions.

No. CEOs of companies that sell to left-leaning consumers can make left-leaning posts. The same goes for the right. This has always been true.

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by josephcsible on Monday September 06, 2021 @10:57PM (#28440420)
When was the last time that a CEO got canceled by right-leaning consumers for making a left-leaning post? Most companies sell to both left-leaning and right-leaning consumers, but people only seem to get canceled over right-leaning posts.
Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by dredmorbius on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:01PM (#28440457)
Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by josephcsible on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:07PM (#28440494)
Who got fired as a result of any of that? My whole point was that companies are willing to fire people when their left-leaning customers boycott, but not when their right-leaning customers do.
Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by only_as_i_fall on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @12:37PM (#28446805)
Right, but that isn't because those on the right don't engage in this kind of behavior, it's just that consumers on the left are more successful at making these companies blink.
Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by kangnkodos on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @04:18PM (#28449348)
Is the left's success and the right's failure at getting CEOs fired a good thing or a bad thing?

If you are on the left, it's great.

If you're on the right, you just lost your right to have free speech and stay employed.

It's not just CEOs. An everyday engineer can be fired for publicly repeating political opinions on the right. See Damore. But no one who repeats public opinions on the left gets fired.

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by only_as_i_fall on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @06:45PM (#28450803)
Idk I kinda think if you published a company wide memo criticizing management for being part of the bourgeoisie and calling for labor organization you'd probably also get fired.

Actually you'd probably get fired most places for publishing a company wide memo of any kind with the primary purpose of criticizing your bosses and workplace.

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by josephcsible on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @10:56PM (#28452511)
Isn't it illegal in a lot of places to fire someone for calling for labor organization?
Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by quotemstr on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:13PM (#28440524)
Furthermore, boycotts never actually happen. Sometimes loud people on Twitter get together and create the impression that a boycott is coming, and then the company targeted blinks and does what the loud Twitter people want. But the boycotts never actually materialize, and companies that find the stones to ignore the loud Twitter people don't suffer any actual harm. Normal people tune this stuff out.
Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by dredmorbius on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:22PM (#28440584)
Jamie Riley: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hypocrisy-right-w...

University of California President Clark Kerr: https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-fbis-vendetta-against-...

Nikole Hannah-Jones: https://www.wral.com/faculty-say-hannah-jones-tenure-saga-ta...

James Whitfield: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/02/us/texas-principal-paid-leave...

Strong arguments for: Dan Rather, Sarah Jeong (attempted), Quinn Norton (succeeded), Al Franken, Emily Wilder, Noah Adams, Bob Edwards, Daniel Schorr.

(So many in the press. Interesting.)

Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens.

The Hollywood Blacklist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_blacklist

Note that business itself tends to be dominated by conservatives, with some exceptions.

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by javagram on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:37PM (#28440676)
Dan Rather was fired because he aired fraudulent documents on 60 Minutes.[0]

Quinn Norton was fired for anti-black, anti-gay, and “Friends with Nazis” comments. If you want to associate this with a political side at all in the USA, then (especially the anti-gay language) it would be right-wing. https://www.wired.com/story/the-ny-times-fires-tech-writer-q...

Al Franken wasn’t fired at all, he resigned from his job as senator after being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women.

Continuing along your example list seems pointless since examination of the first few suggests it’s rather a jumble of names. How is such a list of academics, journalists, and a US Senator relative to the parent’s original question of “ When was the last time that a CEO got canceled by right-leaning consumers for making a left-leaning post?” A CEO position seems quite different from the ones you listed.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy#...

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by tablespoon on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @01:08PM (#28447192)
> Dan Rather was fired because he aired fraudulent documents on 60 Minutes.[0]

And not just any fraudulent documents, but ones that had typography that was so anachronistic that amateur bloggers were able to discover and prove their fraudulence.

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by dredmorbius on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @01:29PM (#28447426)
Dan Rather's side of the story:

CBS appointed a panel led by Republican Dick Thornburgh, former governor of Pennsylvania and United States Attorney General under George H. W. Bush, and Louis Boccardi, retired president and chief executive officer and former executive editor of the Associated Press. Released in January 5, 2005, their report concluded that CBS rushed to make inadequately verified allegations public and it was slow in responding to criticism. The panel, however, was unable to conclude whether the documents were forgeries or not, nor did it conclude that a political agenda at 60 Minutes Wednesday drove either the timing of the airing of the segment or its content. Like the story itself, the report and its conclusions were divisive....

Rather has stood by the story. In a 2007 interview with Larry King, Rather argued that the review panel was “a set-up,” and pointed to the fact that “nobody to this day has proved these documents were fraudulent. . . . The story was true.” The journalist also talked about the story in his 2012 memoir, Rather Outspoken: My Life in the News, and claimed that internal CBS documents that came to light during his lawsuit show how Viacom lobbyist Carol Melton, under pressure from GOP House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, urged Heyward to retract the Bush/TexANG story. In Rather's words, Melton "made it clear that Blunt was speaking for an even more powerful constituency—the White House.” Rather was especially critical of Leslie Moonves, who was then chairman and CEO of CBS, explaining that CBS should not have retracted the story "but that was the way that Blunt and the White House wanted it, and Moonves chose to oblige." His 2012 memoir led a new wave of articles that revisited the 60 Minutes II piece. Most of them, like the extensive Texas Monthly article in 2012, concluded that the story was and remained far more complex than expected.

https://danratherjournalist.org/about-dan/controversies

Note that Rather's "controversies" page shows he has been attacked by conservatives and the GOP since the Nixon administration in 1972. It's also quite candid on the controversies with which he's been involved. I'd be interested in similar personally-hosted pages from other persuasions.

Moreover, the question was "When was the last time that a CEO got canceled" by the right. I think I've demonstrated and documented that that particular practice is in fact very well established.

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by javagram on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @04:20PM (#28449391)
That quote - “Rather has stood by the story” - is a great justification for why Dan Rather was fired. He failed at his job of being a honest, reliable journalist and didn’t even apologize or retract the story after smearing the US president with apparently forged documents in the run up to an election. His credibility was in tatters.

> Moreover, the question was "When was the last time that a CEO got canceled" by the right. I think I've demonstrated and documented that that particular practice is in fact very well established.

By listing random non-CEOs who were fired or resigned for reasons like sexual harassment or anti-gay comments? I don’t get how you say that establishes anything related to the quoted question.

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by tablespoon on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @01:00PM (#28447087)
> "HERE is Your Boycott List of All of the Liberal Agenda Corporations"

That's apples and oranges. Conservatives can boycott all they want, but they don't have the same cultural power to get people fired for ideological transgressions like this. I read somewhere that while conservatives have been very effective at achieving and maintaining political power, it turns out that's not a substitute for cultural power, so their strategy ultimately failed.

Ultimately, they can probably blame their allegiance to free market capitalism for that weakness. It seems that, when conservatives actually achieve economic power, making money takes priority over their other ideological commitments.

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by dredmorbius on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:32PM (#28448850)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28440584

Conservatives have been quite successful in the past.

Any failure is not for lack of trying.

The hypocrisy is flagrant.

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by BrandoElFollito on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:57PM (#28449117)
Maybe it is simply because the right-leaning ones are worse?

(I am French, we do not care what our CEOs say about non business things as personal beliefs, or with whom they sleep, or which church they attend our not - so this is just a genuine comment on one possibility)

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by void_mint on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:03PM (#28440463)
> When was the last time that a CEO got canceled

Stop with the nonsense. A CEO was fired. Nobody was cancelled.

> Most companies sell to both left-leaning and right-leaning consumers, but people only seem to get canceled over right-leaning posts.

Elon Musk smoked a single joint and his board did an executive reorg. Most CEOs keep their politics mostly private. What are you even saying?

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by josephcsible on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:05PM (#28440470)
> A CEO was fired. Nobody was cancelled.

What would the answer be if you replaced "canceled" with "fired" in my comment then?

> Elon Musk smoked a single joint and his board did an executive reorg.

But isn't he still the CEO?

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by void_mint on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:07PM (#28440492)
> What would the answer be if you replaced "canceled" with "fired" in my comment then?

The same. I wanted to correct the nonsense language. You'll note I used appropriate language in my response.

> But isn't he still the CEO?

If he had been CEO for 6 weeks and did an unremarkable job, he certainly would've been. Given the fact that he made them a boatload of money, obviously they wouldn't fire him. If John Gibson had done anything of value and driven them to record breaking sales, they'd probably have kept him too.

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by b0sk on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:01PM (#28440445)
Donald Trump tried to cancel NFL because of black athletes kneeling for social justice and a significant percentage followed through.
Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by josephcsible on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:01PM (#28440454)
Last time I checked, the NFL still exists and kneeling for social justice still happens.
Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by only_as_i_fall on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @12:31PM (#28446722)
Right, but then the argument isn't that people only get canceled for conservative opinions, it's just that the left is better at it.
Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by nomoreplease on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @02:38PM (#28448286)
In one case the “canceled” actually happens routinely. In the other, it’s just a loud man ranting but no one was canceled.
Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by only_as_i_fall on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:32PM (#28448844)
Sure if you don't count Colin Kaepernick as a person.

Regardless I fail to see how this refutes the claim that the right also attempts to engage in "canceling" of those they disagree with but is less effective at it.

For specific examples see the backlash to Gilettes 2019 commercial, or the attempted boycott of nike following their release of ads featuring Kaepernick.

Re:Tripwire CEO 'Steps Down' After Supporting Texas Anti-Abo... by nradov on Monday September 06, 2021 @11:08PM (#28440495)
NFL revenue dropped by a quarter in 2020, however that seems to have been mostly due to the pandemic rather than politics.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/11/nfl-revenue...