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Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by pcrh on Monday September 06, 2021 @04:18AM (#28431581)
>Majority of millennials have never seen a time of economic prosperity in their lifetimes. It is the complete opposite to what their parents experienced.

This exaggerated view is unfortunately quite common. It completely ignores the crises that previous generations had to go through, from WWII and the Korean War, to Vietnam, to depopulation of rural areas, to the Oil Crisis, to massive pollution in modern cities, to the mass lay-off of industrial workers starting in the 1980s, to inflation rates of 15-20%, etc, etc.

Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by OneTimePetes on Monday September 06, 2021 @05:25AM (#28431913)
Yes, but those "previous generations" had oxygen in the tank, as in financial assets stored away from the good times, to survive the bad times. Millenials go pearl diving.
Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by pcrh on Monday September 06, 2021 @05:43AM (#28432007)
Try telling that to all those laid off in the 1980's, or those who had to abandon family farms in the 1960's and 1970's, etc, etc.

Ordinarily it is the older generation that looks to the past with rose-tinted spectacles. Millenials must be one of the few times when it is the younger generation that does so.

Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by nebula8804 on Monday September 06, 2021 @03:30PM (#28437083)
If you look at the arc of the whole generation and compare it to subsequent generations, overall the Boomers ended up much better off than their successors at the same point in time. Time is running out for Millenials to catch up. The oldest part of the cohort are in their 40s now so its looking as if they will end up poorer compared to their parents.
Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by bryanlarsen on Monday September 06, 2021 @08:24AM (#28432990)
Poor people in the fifties did not have any financial assets.
Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by nebula8804 on Monday September 06, 2021 @04:56AM (#28431753)
Oh wow this comment is packed with so many unrelated events spanning multiple generations. You fail to see that going into the 70s and 80s the societal structure shifted to a far conservative view in terms of taxation, regulation and other governmental actions. This leads to a direct correlation to the outcomes for Gen X, Y and Z which have had their upbringing in the decades since post-Nixon.

If you look at the raw numbers of how Boomers prospered in their life cycle and compare it to the trajectory of Millennials it tells a clear and jarring picture. Even more so for Gen Z which explain why they are eschewing capitalism at far greater numbers than Millennials ever did. Note: all of my comments applies to a lesser extent to GenX as well but AOC was referencing Millennials since she is one. The point is if you look at the trajectory from Gen X onwards it paints a picture of decline in most aspects of life.

WWII is really the Silent + Greatest Generation and does not excuse the decline that started after Boomers.

Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by pcrh on Monday September 06, 2021 @05:47AM (#28432043)
>so many unrelated events spanning multiple generations.

That's the point; the world has always been turning. In terms of post-WWII economic history, the current "crisis" in the west is neither special nor very great.

Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by nebula8804 on Monday September 06, 2021 @03:24PM (#28437035)
This academic view of things does not matter to the people who are living a reality where their parents have done better than them. You seem to be ignoring this fact.
Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by pcrh on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:25AM (#28441954)
Plenty of people are living a reality where they're doing better than their parents. I should think that includes a lot of the well-paid software industry readership of HN.
Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by nebula8804 on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @03:53AM (#28442153)
The majority aren't.

Repeating my previous comment:

If you look at the raw numbers of how Boomers prospered in their life cycle and compare it to the trajectory of Millennials it tells a clear and jarring picture. Even more so for Gen Z which explain why they are eschewing capitalism at far greater numbers than Millennials ever did. Note: all of my comments applies to a lesser extent to GenX as well but AOC was referencing Millennials since she is one. The point is if you look at the trajectory from Gen X onwards it paints a picture of decline in most aspects of life.

You can pluck a small group from any generation and show that they are doing better. How is the cohort as a whole doing?

It appears that you are set in your ways and are not willing to actually look at how Gen Y and Gen Z are doing in reality. Every answer you have given is an excuse to lay blame on the millennials as if the majority of the generation made some critical mistake in their lives.

You are just too out of touch to reason with.

Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by pcrh on Tuesday September 07, 2021 @04:20AM (#28442331)
Yes, the challenges faced by Millenials are different from those faced by their parents. But I don't think they are harder than those faced by previous generations.
Re:Are we on the road to civilisation collapse? (2019) by batty_alex on Monday September 06, 2021 @07:58AM (#28432825)
Okay, so, what’s your point? There’s always some crisis in history. You’re moving the goalposts to weird places and leaving out all the boom times in the time periods you mention. Doesn’t seem like a good faith argument to me

Also, the Korean and Vietnamese wars were about fighting communism and imposing Western democracy on the East