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Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by finfinfin on Saturday September 04, 2021 @03:56PM (#28418513)
I highly doubt many “woke” people would agree with you and call an unknown white family in Oregon—and not Zuckerberg—“the real bad guys” .
Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by rayiner on Saturday September 04, 2021 @04:46PM (#28418984)
Have you read the New York Times or watched CNN or MSNBC in the last five years? Rural and working class white people ("deplorables") have replaced Wall Street as the enemy.

It's of course in-character for the New York Times to punch down. That's the same thing they did when Wall Street was full of Rockefeller Republicans while rural and working class white people voted Democrat. The only thing that's changed is the moral failings assigned to them.

Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by gruez on Saturday September 04, 2021 @05:37PM (#28419510)
>Have you read the New York Times or watched CNN or MSNBC in the last five years? Rural and working class white people ("deplorables")

I have, but I'm not a frequent reader so I must have missed the issues where "Rural and working class white people" were being called "deplorables". Can you link me to some of those articles?

Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by gruez on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:56PM (#28420128)
> https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/09/10/hillary-c...

>... meaning people who were racist, sexist, homophobic or xenophobic

so not "Rural and working class white people", unless you think those attributes are fundamentally a part of being "Rural and working class white".

>https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/29/politics/wives-of-the-dep...

0 matches for "rural"

1 match for "working", but in the same context as "working class"

3 matches for "white", but they're all used in discussions about voting patterns, not in describing "deplorables"

>https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/clin...

0 matches for "rural"

0 matches for "working"

1 match for "white", but it was "white house".

Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by rayiner on Saturday September 04, 2021 @07:18PM (#28420278)
> so not "Rural and working class white people", unless you think those attributes are fundamentally a part of being "Rural and working class white".

No, but the New York Times does, insofar as it’s constantly calling all Trump voters white supremacists. (Clinton was gracious, she called only “half” of Trump supporters “deplorables.”)

More to the point, whatever the personal moral shortcomings of rural white Trump voters, they don’t have any power. The media smoothly segues from talking about systemic racism to talking about the personal prejudices of individual Trump voters. But the people who control the systems are woke. The Black-white wealth gap results from folks on Wall Street who read Robin Di Angelo, not folks in Lincoln City, OR who don’t want her ideas taught in their elementary schools.

Wokeness is a white hedge fund manager putting his arm around a white Wal-Mart greeter and admitting that white people are the reason for persistent racial wealth gaps (but at least he’s “doing the work”).

Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by gruez on Saturday September 04, 2021 @08:38PM (#28420727)
>No, but the New York Times does, insofar as it’s constantly calling all Trump voters white supremacists

Source?

>More to the point, whatever the personal moral shortcomings of rural white Trump voters, they don’t have any power

They got trump eleceted, didn't they?

Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by rayiner on Saturday September 04, 2021 @09:34PM (#28420979)
Voting for someone is power every citizen has. That’s a very attenuated power that doesn’t give people meaningful power over other people.

You want to talk about racial wealth inequality? Rural white Trump voters don’t have any power over that, Wall Street and Silicon Valley do.

You want to talk about police in American cities shooting unarmed Black men? Trump supporters in rural Minnesota had no say over the Minneapolis police department that employed Derek Chauvin, or the mayor that supervised him.

You want to talk about lack of education and opportunities? Who has control over the schools in Wilmington, DE, where I used to live? Not Trump voters in rural Delaware. Who destroyed the port city’s economy, creating concentrated Black poverty downtown, by shipping Pennsylvania manufacturing jobs up the river over to China? It wasn’t rural white people.

Whatever the condemnable personal prejudices of these people, they have little power to actually hurt Black and brown people as a whole group.

Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by random314 on Sunday September 05, 2021 @05:28AM (#28422754)
> Whatever the condemnable personal prejudices of these people, they have little power to actually hurt Black and brown people as a whole group.

Except, of course, putting Trump and Stephen Miller in power.

Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by raknj on Saturday September 04, 2021 @04:34PM (#28418858)
I'd say the woke faction of MAGAF employees rationalize the behavior of their corporate masters.

They claim to protect the weak while acting ruthlessly in software projects.

They claim to be oppressed by people earning much less than them.

They claim for strive for equity but never give up their MAGAF positions, council memberships or president titles.

In general, they are useless and should be fired.

Re:How did American “wokeness” jump from elite schools to ev... by ip26 on Saturday September 04, 2021 @04:36PM (#28418880)
Reading between the lines, perhaps some of his in-laws were at Malheur Wildlife Refuge.