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Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by jzb on Friday September 03, 2021 @08:28PM (#28410980)
That doesn't seem to be working so well with drugs. We've filled prisons with people engaged in low level illegal activity but we don't seem to have made any dent in illegal drugs. In fact, probably the opposite.
Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by dcolkitt on Saturday September 04, 2021 @01:07AM (#28412226)
The difference is that drugs are a victimless crime. Vast networks can operate outside the law, because no one has any incentive to defect. Outside extensive and ubiquitous surveillance, it’s virtually impossible to disrupt a disciplined drug distribution network. Maybe you get a few lucky hits here or there from random traffic stops or the like, but it’s like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

In contrast victim crimes like theft create a huge surface area of vulnerability. Every time the crime is committed, by definition the criminals are interacting with an adversary who’s extremely motivated to collaborate with law enforcement. Victim based criminal networks are basically unscalable and extremely short-lived for this reason. Unless the political classes are complicit and refuse to let law enforcement do their job of protecting victims.

Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by google234123 on Friday September 03, 2021 @09:02PM (#28411156)
Well, looks at Japan and Korea for a counter example. There is much less prosecution of low level drug crimes now and an increase in the amount of fatal overdoes from illegal drugs
Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by rayiner on Friday September 03, 2021 @10:20PM (#28411510)
That just means that it’s hard to regulate criminal activity where the “victim” (buyer) is a voluntary participant.

But laws like RICO—which allows low level goons to be held liable for the whole enterprise’s crimes—absolutely decimated the Mafia.

Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by hattmall on Saturday September 04, 2021 @02:21AM (#28412580)
This is basic supply and demand. Supply side enforcement for drugs is unlikely to be successful. Increasing the enforcement only raises the reward for doing it eventually as the market dictates someone will step in to fill the role as long as supply demands it.

On the other hand the reality is that there is a limited supply of drug users. Demand side enforcement could end the "war" quickly.

Enforcement of sellers is dumb, people selling drugs isn't the problem. It's their usage that's what we want to stop so the enforcement should be on that side.

Re:Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft... by AniseAbyss on Saturday September 04, 2021 @06:08AM (#28413701)
Not very limited. In my country basically everyone uses drugs. It's a "work hard play hard" mentality.

And no you can't prosecute buyers. They are white middle class people.