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Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by dragontamer on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:01PM (#28407312)
I think most of us got cloth masks with the full expectation that they were worse than proper PPE from hospitals (be it surgical masks or N95 masks).

I'm not sure if people remember: but there was a shortage of masks of all kinds in March 2020. Cloth masks were the only thing we could get, and we all knew they were kind of crap (a lot of us were using coffee filters stapled onto the masks to increase its effectiveness).

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Now that the N95 shortage is over (at least, I'm buying N95 duckbills at $1 each these days), I think its time to seriously consider using N95 in the public. At least in America, where we seem to have suddenly a huge influx of N95 availability this year.

Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by majormajor on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:05PM (#28407366)
Could you share a link for $1 N95's? That's better than I've seen. I've already moved to this approach myself, it's an increase in cost that I'll gladly take for increased protection. Just waiting for government and businesses in the US to catch up.

It was definitely hard to find the good stuff at first - and I was much more reclusive as a result too - but yeah, things have changed.

I wish people wouldn't respond to changes in policy/advice as evidence of "lying" before, as much of it has just been learning more. (Though the "we're gonna tell people they're ineffective because we want to reserve them for professionals" thing was a huge unforced error, IMO.)

Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by dragontamer on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:08PM (#28407401)
So $1 masks are only "Duckbill" masks, which look kind of stupid. But they're clearly low cost and have very high surface area / breathability. Also, real N95, so major benefit for sure.

https://accumed.com/30-pack-fda-cleared-niosh-n95-surgical-r...

These straps kinda suck though. I recommend carrying a few extras somewhere since the straps may snap throughout the day. I'm still looking for a better mask. For all of its faults, this one is available today and at the promised $1 price too.

The BNX duckbill masks used to be $1 per. But they seem sold out. Keep an eye on them just in case they come back into stock. https://bnx.com/products/bnx-50-pack-n95-mask-respirator-nio...

The Kimtech 53358 Duckbill WAS $1 each just a month ago. But their prices suddenly skyrocketed to $1.50ish from most sources. EDIT: If you buy 300 of them, you should get close to the $1/each price, but I want to "test" them before dropping $300 buckaroos on it...

EDIT: WB Mason is selling the Kimtech Duckbills at $50 per 50-pack, so that's $1 each: https://www.wbmason.com/ProductDetail.aspx?ItemDesc=Kimtech-...

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I'm not sure how much I trust Amazon's supply chain for proper N95 / NIOSH approved products. A lot of Amazon's stuff are 3rd party shippers and/or 3rd party suppliers instead of official sources, and comingling is an issue.

If its $1.50 from a proper medical store, then the $0.80 price at Amazon is probably too good to be true. If we're paying extra for the N95 rating, I'm willing to pay extra for proper supply chain.

Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by acranox on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:19PM (#28407528)
https://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-N95-Particulate-Performance-D...

Home Depot sells this 20 pack for $24 from 3M. That’s $1.20 each.

Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by Animats on Friday September 03, 2021 @03:04PM (#28408036)
Incidentally, if you buy 3M masks, there's a number on the bottom of the box that can be validated on 3M's web site.[1] They will tell you if that's a valid number and if anyone tried to validate that number before.

[1] https://safeguard.3m.com/Guest#/Validation

Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by dpweb on Friday September 03, 2021 @03:35PM (#28408418)
Count your masks. My box of 10 3M masks (closed not taped shut) from Home depot only had 9 in it.

The told me I can gladly travel 30 min back to the store and wait in line for a refund. No thanks.

Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by toomim on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:14PM (#28407465)
You can get the awesome 3M Aura used in hospitals for $2.20. These are great: https://www.ebay.com/itm/224332977653?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DI...
Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by WarOnPrivacy on Friday September 03, 2021 @03:36PM (#28408427)
I keep reading this as >You can get the awesome 3M Aura used
Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by dboreham on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:15PM (#28407473)
Costco "non-duckbill" N95 are $1.50 currently. They have the duckbill/fold-flat N95-ish kind for $0.60.
Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by linsomniac on Friday September 03, 2021 @03:49PM (#28408584)
We recently got a set of those for Back to School, and have been fairly happy with them. Previously we had gotten from, IIRC, "maskhq" which had a comment reply ~18 months ago from the guy running it, the big thing there was authenticity traceable back to factory. They were ~$1ea. Can't seem to find the site now, maybe it has gone away.
Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by nielsbot on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:03PM (#28407341)
Seems quite reasonable to wear a (K)N95 instead of a surgical mask. Slightly less comfortable, but yes, affordable for most.
Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by dragontamer on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:05PM (#28407375)
That "K" means that my ears hurt after 2 hours though.

Going for full N95 means that the strap goes all the way around my head and is way more comfortable for extended use (ex: airplane rides or whatnot)

Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by nokcha on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:16PM (#28407490)
There are also KN95 masks with headband straps instead of earloop straps. E.g., a web search for "Powecom KN95 Respirator Headband Style".
Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by Scoundreller on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:39PM (#28407768)
Also 3M 9502+ KN95 which was subsequently NIOSH N95 approved (but you had to pay more if you wanted the ones stamped for the US market).
Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by fma on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:46PM (#28407857)
There are "ear savers" you can get that'll turn the ear loops to headbands.

I'll admit I've tried the plastic & velcro ones and didn't like them - but I also don't wear them for hours at a time but just for quick trips so found them annoying to put on and off.

Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by schroeding on Friday September 03, 2021 @03:18PM (#28408203)
"Slightly", I'm not so sure about that :-D

Where I live, N95 masks are mandatory in public transport since February, and it's really uncomfortable to be in an non-airconditioned metro car which is full to the brim, with water running down the windows from condensation. That's totally acceptable with surgical masks, but there's a face melting heat under any N95 mask in this condition :-D

Of course I wear them as mandated, but I really hope we can switch back to the more practical surgical masks soon, with enough vaccinations :-)

(Or that there is an early onset of winter :-D)

Re:Surgical masks reduce Covid-19 spread, large-scale Stanfo... by YZF on Friday September 03, 2021 @03:36PM (#28408429)
What about the amount of waste/garbage this creates? It's already a problem finding random discarded masks all over the place. We need a reusable/washable N95 class mask.