U.S. labor agency investigating two complaints from Apple workers

Re:U.S. labor agency investigating two complaints from Apple... by benjaminjosephw on Friday September 03, 2021 @05:56AM (#28402263)

I get your concern but is it possible that your idea of confidence is shaped by a male perspective on how that trait manifests?

Encouraging a junior team member to have more self-assurance in their presentation style is one thing but routinely asking women to behave more like men is another. This same scenario could be seen either way depending on your perspective.

To address sexism in the industry we need to be able to have a reasonable conversation about these kinds of subtle and subjective differences. There are grey areas and we won't all agree but resenting the challenge to think this through is probably not a response that's going to affect change.

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Re:U.S. labor agency investigating two complaints from Apple... by breakfastduck on Friday September 03, 2021 @06:22AM (#28402395)

It's nothing to do with gender, there's plenty of men who suck at presentation and plenty who do the upwards inflection thing which is a sure fire way to destroy anyone's confidence in you.

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Re:U.S. labor agency investigating two complaints from Apple... by csmpltn on Friday September 03, 2021 @06:40AM (#28402503)

> "To address sexism in the industry we need to be able to have a reasonable conversation about these kinds of subtle and subjective differences."

This is about a single-sided, openly made accusation of sexism. Not an attempt at having a "reasonable conversation".

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Re:U.S. labor agency investigating two complaints from Apple... by MeinBlutIstBlau on Friday September 03, 2021 @08:21AM (#28403189)

Our idea of confidence is shaped by what successful men have found to work with other men. This isn't a social bias, this is economic survival of the fittest.

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