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Re:Supply Chain Shortages Continue Around the World. Get Use... by simonh on Friday September 03, 2021 @04:20AM (#28401676)
It's simply not possible for the US, or any of the developed nations to expand local production like that at any economically significant scale. We just don't have the work force to do it. Before the pandemic hit developed world employment was at a peak, and we're rapidly hoovering up unemployed labour back into work, mainly as Leisure & Hospitality, and Transport & Logistics ramp back up to capacity.

Also tariffs cost a fortune to the economy and generally depress consumption a lot more than they boost employment. One reason is investors are very wary of capitalising local production baed on tariffs that could disappear at any time. It's a very precarious basis on which to build a business. The increased costs to customers per job can be hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I'm absolutely no fan of subsidies, they're a terrible distortion of incentives, but they're many, many times less godawfully wasteful than tariffs. It's also much easier to see where the money goes and measure success (or, more likely, failure).

Re:Supply Chain Shortages Continue Around the World. Get Use... by ajsnigrutin on Friday September 03, 2021 @08:15AM (#28403144)
So at the same time, people are complaining that automation is killing workplaces, and that there is not enough workforce?
Re:Supply Chain Shortages Continue Around the World. Get Use... by simonh on Friday September 03, 2021 @04:27PM (#28408984)
People have been complaining about automation since there has been automation.

I’m not familiar with the US, but here in the UK we’ve had fairly low unemployment for a while, in particular long term unemployment was under 400k, most unemployed were between jobs. We also had a lot of unfilled positions. The skills gap was and still is a pressing problem.

Somebody will bring up strong AI. I’ve been hearing about that being imminent my entire life, no joke, and I’m 55 in a few weeks.

Re:Supply Chain Shortages Continue Around the World. Get Use... by amanaplanacanal on Friday September 03, 2021 @11:58AM (#28405886)
Automation probably kills the higher paying jobs first because that provides the most return. Lower paying jobs get automated last, and those seem to be where employers are having problems hiring.

How long until your favorite restaurant gets rid of servers? You will order through a screen at your table, then they will conveyer belt your food to you.

Re:Supply Chain Shortages Continue Around the World. Get Use... by qualudeheart on Saturday September 04, 2021 @01:48PM (#28417305)
Automating servers has been tried since the early years of this decade, by McDonalds in particular, and that same company is now hiring again paying $15 per hour for those same very simple positions.

Automation isn’t going to happen like that, although I am unsure what the obstacle is for something as basic as fast food.

All the tech is there. Automatic burger machines have been here since the 70s. Ordering can be done through a phone app. Where is the bottleneck?

Now if selling hamburgers can not be automated I would like to know how something more complex like political strategism or software engineering or market analysis is supposed to be automated.

Re:Supply Chain Shortages Continue Around the World. Get Use... by simonh on Friday September 03, 2021 @04:28PM (#28408998)
Higher paying jobs take more skills, experience and judgement so are harder to automate. The first jobs to be automated were repetitive labour.
Re:Supply Chain Shortages Continue Around the World. Get Use... by amanaplanacanal on Saturday September 04, 2021 @10:02AM (#28415177)
Yes but they were still higher paying jobs than the server at your local eateries.